MoNkEy MaGiC
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of the above two engines which one would be better and faster in the corsa "B"?
1) 0-60?
2) 1/4 mile?
3) BHP?
4) Torque?
5) Handling?
6) Sound?
7) cost of coversion?
8) Reliability?
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corsa_godfather
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turbo.
1.?
2.?
3.204bhp
4. alot lol
5. same as 2 litre
6. very nice + ptssshhhh
7.7500 from courtney including guarentee
8.ITS A TURBO so............
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corsa_godfather
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TB'S
1.?
2.mid 13s
3.200 ish
4.?
5.same as turbo
6.very beefy
7.3k including fitting and uni chip etc
8.not sure
2.
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MoNkEy MaGiC
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i wanna do a engine conversion eventually coz me Gsi engine is fooked! and the amount its gonna cost to repair and modify for power i mite as well add bit more money and get a more powerfull engine put in 
another thing, which of these 3 engines is cheaper/easier to insure?
1) 2litre 16v turbo
2) 2lire 16v + throttle bodies
3) 2litre 16v
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J da Silva
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factory turbo engines are just as reliable as any other, its the Normally aspirated engines with a turbo added to it which aren't that reliable
[Edited on 20-04-04 by VenomTurbo]
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Kris TD
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if you have to ask that question then you cant afford to insure it, turbo is about group 17-18, 16v about 15 and the throttle bodied one group 15 plus severe engien mods.
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J da Silva
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there is no set figure for your insurance, you have to consider,where its kept at night,hopw many points you have or havent got,no claims,what kinda cover your after
i pay 1.3k on my c20let with another named driver
my mate is paying 1.8k on a 1.6gsi he has 3points for speeding,no claims because hes never had fully comp cover and 2 years driving experience
thats what u need to get quotes for beforehand
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MoNkEy MaGiC
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im not doing it just yet!
im talking at least 1 years time, but depends how long my current engine will last in the bad conditions its in, thats why i need to know about cost and insurnce if i had to do the conversion soon than intended 
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MoNkEy MaGiC
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1.3k on a 2litre turbo  not bad
is that fully comp
how long u had ur licence
any convictions
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Jambo
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got quoted £1.1k on cally/cav turb
Im doing the turbo conversion, @ 20 with 3 yrs ncb it was £2k
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J da Silva
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im 21,3years ncb,very good postcode,adrian flux said my postcode was in the top20 in britain on their list
garaged
dont do many miles in the turbo
no points
no convictions
had my license 3 years 6months
corsasport club membership discount too
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Jambo
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oh btw im 21 when engine is going in, im not paying £2k! lol
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James R
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A std C20LET (200BHP, 190lbs) against a TB's 20XE (190BHP 175lbs) will be faster as no lag, longer power delivery, and will corner better as the power is easier to delivery, (no torque spikes).
also driven normally a TB's 20XE will return std mpg figures, howver ragged it's not good.
Oh and Throttle bodies at full chat sound nicer than a dump valve imo.
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Jambo
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LEt is 204bhp standard, for £149 it will be 230bhp with a phase 0 eds upgrade.
Traction is worse cos of power delivery tho
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luca2020
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2.0 TBs will handle better than the c20let, the let is heavier
2.0 conersions is 1500, then u buy the TBs and fit them urself or get a machanic to do them. SBD 208 kit is just over 2k i think, fitting prehaps 300-400?
2.0turbo is 2.5-3k, coutney are laughable at the best of times
both as relaible as eachother
c20let has more power potential
However a LSD i would recomend for both to use what power u get to its best abbility
[Edited on 20-04-2004 by luca2020]
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Cybermonkey
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so to sum up, a 204bhp 2.0 Turbo will be slower point to point AND in a straight line than a 2.0 TB's. You dont get the dump valve sound with the TB's (i dont understand why this is so important to some people )but the sound an engine makes with hefty TB's is pretty damn sexual. A full race spec 2.0 with TB's can see just shy of 300bhp, quite a feat IMO, however an LET can be tuned heavily to over 450bhp now with stage kits from Regal, Wallace, Courtenay etc etc
Dave
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Daimo B
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 lmfaop at some of these replies.
All you people that have answered. No arseyness, but can i ask, how many of you have actaully been in a throttle bodied XE or a LET corsa???
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Cybermonkey
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why is this important damien?
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Daimo B
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1) 0-60? - XE = about 5 - 6.5, LET 6 seconds + depend on wheel size (traction)
2) 1/4 mile? - XE (13.5 -14) - LET 13.8-14.6
3) BHP? - XE - 150 and 155bhp - LET 204bhp
4) Torque? XE 143 - LET 190lb ft
5) Handling? Both will be the same roughly, slight understear, can be sorted
6) Sound? XE TB sounds mental. Turbo whistle also sounds very nice. Depend on what you prefer. Turbos great, but TB at 7500+rpm, mmmmmmmmmm
7) cost of coversion? PROPERLY. XE £1600, LET £4000 odd (to do it properly as Vauxhall would have) Not that the ever would, LET just NOT meant to be there
8) Reliability? XE is good, old engiens so starting to wear. LET is good as well, as long as u keep ur eye on fuel/air ration, oil temp, and allow the turbo to spin down before turning off.
As for which is faster, well, get the power down on the LET and it will be quicker overall and when on the move. However, get the revs right in the XE with TB and it'll win. It'll also rape the LET off the line as NA engines are far easier to get the power down with.
[Edited on 21-04-2004 by Daimo B]
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Daimo B
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quote:
Originally posted by Cybermonkey24
why is this important damien?
Becuase if you haven't been one one or both then your not gonna have a proper idea of how the cars both go. Theres no official stats for either engine in the cars.
Got to experience them both. For which i have, and varied models 
250bhp TB XE
220bhp TB XE
190bhp TB XE
170bhp XE
and lower
280bhp LET
220bhp LET.
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Cybermonkey
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daimo, why have you given stats for standard XE, without TB's?? The question was an LET vs XE TB.
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Daimo B
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Good point, i'll go adjust them for you. Will that make you happy 
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Cybermonkey
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thanks muchos grazios !
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Daimo B
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End of the day, its down to personnal preference.
TB car will be better if you dont use the car that much. Engine needs to be revved hard to make use of the power.
LET doesn't need this at all. Very smooth, put ur foot down in any gear and it will just pickup and go go gooooo.
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J da Silva
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quote:
Originally posted by Daimo B
lmfaop at some of these replies.
All you people that have answered. No arseyness, but can i ask, how many of you have actaully been in a throttle bodied XE or a LET corsa???
i thought the same
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