StuartVRS
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Right, lets just clear this up once and for all.
Atmospheric DV's will cause a little more lag, i know this and experience this but i have had no problems with it hitting limp mode or anything. I have hit limp mode but not due to the DV. With a recirc and induction kit you will hear the DV a little more. Everyone has their opinion but im fucking sick of people saying atmospheric DV's dont work on VAG 1.8T engines when im blatantly proving you all wrong by running one with no problems at all.
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CORSA NUT
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I thought LAG was the wait for the turbo to spool up again after a gear change or am i just wrong? 
I want an Atmospheric now!!! 
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vibrio
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Originally posted by CORSA NUT
I thought LAG was the wait for the turbo to spool up again after a gear change or am i just wrong?
I want an Atmospheric now!!!
that and waiting for the turbo to spool up from low revs. more people get problems with the atmos valve than people that run fine. I can run an atmos valve on my car yet I run a recirc. atmos valves are fine if you want to get kev's turning and going "ah man listen to that dump valve".
if you notice lag between gear changes then you'll find it worse if you fit an atmos. 85% of tunners of the VAG engine don't recomend atmos valves
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CorsaSRi16v
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Sounds like it will be a "Suck it and see" thing with which to go for.
I want the Atmospheric one.
Let me know how you get on Alan 
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StuartVRS
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quote:
Originally posted by vibrio
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Originally posted by CORSA NUT
I thought LAG was the wait for the turbo to spool up again after a gear change or am i just wrong?
I want an Atmospheric now!!!
that and waiting for the turbo to spool up from low revs. more people get problems with the atmos valve than people that run fine. I can run an atmos valve on my car yet I run a recirc. atmos valves are fine if you want to get kev's turning and going "ah man listen to that dump valve".
if you notice lag between gear changes then you'll find it worse if you fit an atmos. 85% of tunners of the VAG engine don't recomend atmos valves
I agree with you Vibrio, it will increase lag but people seem to make out that it makes a massive difference when it doesnt. Plus, im sure everyone with an atmospheric DV puts it on just to get people turning round and saying "ah man listen to that dump valve" 
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vibrio
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well
what do you want your car to make a silly sneeze on lift off
or
a car that performance to it;s best
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StuartVRS
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Originally posted by CorsaSRi16v
Sounds like it will be a "Suck it and see" thing with which to go for.
I want the Atmospheric one.
Let me know how you get on Alan
It all depends what you want. If you want all out power, get a recirc, if you love the noise, get an atmospheric. It really is that simple
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StuartVRS
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Originally posted by vibrio
well
what do you want your car to make a silly sneeze on lift off
or
a car that performance to it;s best
So you dont like the silly sneeze noise eh? Change your bio then
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CorsaSRi16v
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I think atmosheric then as long it's not going to cause any problems.
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StuartVRS
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Originally posted by CorsaSRi16v
I think atmosheric then as long it's not going to cause any problems.
I havent had a single problem with mine, that i guarantee you. My advice would be ring bailey up and ask them any questions and explain any doubts you have to them. They will tell you everything you need to know.
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CorsaSRi16v
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This is probably going to sound silly, but does the Audi use a wastegate actuator?
I am not that up on the VW/Audi engine, but I know most there is to know about the Vauxhall range 
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vibrio
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Originally posted by corsaCsxi
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Originally posted by vibrio
well
what do you want your car to make a silly sneeze on lift off
or
a car that performance to it;s best
So you dont like the silly sneeze noise eh? Change your bio then
mine still makes a noise with the recirc on it
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Marc
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same here.
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vibrio
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quote:
Originally posted by CorsaSRi16v
This is probably going to sound silly, but does the Audi use a wastegate actuator?
I am not that up on the VW/Audi engine, but I know most there is to know about the Vauxhall range
yes all turbos have them or they would spin out of control
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vibrio
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Originally posted by CorsaSRi16v
I think atmosheric then as long it's not going to cause any problems.
is the car still under warrenty
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CorsaSRi16v
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quote:
Originally posted by vibrio
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Originally posted by CorsaSRi16v
This is probably going to sound silly, but does the Audi use a wastegate actuator?
I am not that up on the VW/Audi engine, but I know most there is to know about the Vauxhall range
yes all turbos have them or they would spin out of control
That's what I thought, but having not owned a Turbo car before I've never looked into the in's and out's of how they work.
I think I'll have to look further into them 
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CorsaSRi16v
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Any good sites that that you can recommend?
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J da Silva
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you find alot of people only have a turbo engine so they can have a dump valve fitted to it, not for the job it was actually designed to do, same with NOS
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CORSA NUT
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Yeah sad to admit but i've always wanted a Turbo car just for the DV noise  I mean c'mon Vibs you said it yourself you had one till you got bored of it
I don't fancy losing the performance i've just got by reataching a pipe because i've picked the wrong type of valve
It's not like i can afford to waste £130 odd if i don't like it or it slows the car down!
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CorsaSRi16v
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I must sad as well, because that is why I've always wanted one.
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Mistamist
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Sorry to sound stupid, but is a wastegate the same as a recirc Dump valve? i used to have a smart Roadster as my company car (hold head in shame and wait for the hairdresser comments) and i loved the sound of the wastegate more of a chatter than a ptshhhh, if i decide to get a LET i would prefer it to make that sound.
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StuartVRS
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quote:
Originally posted by CORSA NUT
Yeah sad to admit but i've always wanted a Turbo car just for the DV noise I mean c'mon Vibs you said it yourself you had one till you got bored of it
I don't fancy losing the performance i've just got by reataching a pipe because i've picked the wrong type of valve
It's not like i can afford to waste £130 odd if i don't like it or it slows the car down!
Get your little ass down to mine one day and drive ours if you wanna see what/hear what the atmospheric valve is like. Trust me you wont be disappointed
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vibrio
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quote:
Originally posted by CORSA NUT
Yeah sad to admit but i've always wanted a Turbo car just for the DV noise I mean c'mon Vibs you said it yourself you had one till you got bored of it
I don't fancy losing the performance i've just got by reataching a pipe because i've picked the wrong type of valve
It's not like i can afford to waste £130 odd if i don't like it or it slows the car down!
I did not get ride of it cause I was bored. I got rid of it cause I fanced trying my recirc on again and that provided a much better drive
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vibrio
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Originally posted by mistdotcom
Sorry to sound stupid, but is a wastegate the same as a recirc Dump valve? i used to have a smart Roadster as my company car (hold head in shame and wait for the hairdresser comments) and i loved the sound of the wastegate more of a chatter than a ptshhhh, if i decide to get a LET i would prefer it to make that sound.
wastegate chatter is just a couple of words the waste gate doe snot move. chatter is the sound you get when the DV does not vent properly causing turbo stall
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vibrio
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quote:
Originally posted by CORSA NUT
Yeah sad to admit but i've always wanted a Turbo car just for the DV noise I mean c'mon Vibs you said it yourself you had one till you got bored of it
I don't fancy losing the performance i've just got by reataching a pipe because i've picked the wrong type of valve
It's not like i can afford to waste £130 odd if i don't like it or it slows the car down!
look it all depends on you. do you want a noise and the chance of your car going into limp mode or do you use the valve that most of the VAG tuning companys would use. Jabba would not install a atmopheric valve with their 300+hp IHI conversion
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