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vibrio

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1st Apr 04 at 15:42

quote:
Originally posted by Robbo
Clio cup is lighter, a LOT lighter and a lot smaler than a DC5, come on!

sorry but I am just making the same sort of case as other people are

Screaming Vtec

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1st Apr 04 at 15:43

PS rob mines a Dc2..

Patrick

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1st Apr 04 at 15:44

I love my Astra. It does a 14.6 1/4 and could do a lot faster.

If they are not very good cars, why do they win nearly everything on the touring car circuit??

Screaming Vtec

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1st Apr 04 at 15:44

Right lets put it this way..

Cruising - Astra (if you dont mind the way it looks :lol

Driving enthusiasts will take the CTR ANY DAY OF THE WEEK.

sxi boy

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1st Apr 04 at 15:45

quote:
Originally posted by Patrick
I love my Astra. It does a 14.6 1/4 and could do a lot faster.

If they are not very good cars, why do they win nearly everything on the touring car circuit??

we're not talking about touring cars tho, we're talking about bog standard road cars

my dad had a astra coupe, it was gash, handled like a boat

Screaming Vtec

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1st Apr 04 at 15:46

quote:
Originally posted by Patrick
I love my Astra. It does a 14.6 1/4 and could do a lot faster.

If they are not very good cars, why do they win nearly everything on the touring car circuit??

Touring car astras are a LOT different to the Road cars...

GIBBS

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1st Apr 04 at 15:46

does the clio cup not have variable valve timing too? just not used in a so efficient way.
I think it deman's more skill to drive a vtec fast then a car with torque, as the torque can cover up driving / gear changing mistakes whereas if u make a bad guessed change etc.. you can really notice it in a type r/vtec i love em. real driving satisfaction if you get it right.

Robbo

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1st Apr 04 at 15:47

Patrick, I like the coupes but not the GSi's...

Robbo

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1st Apr 04 at 15:47

quote:
Originally posted by GIBBS
does the clio cup not have variable valve timing too? just not used in a so efficient way.
I think it deman's more skill to drive a vtec fast then a car with torque, as the torque can cover up driving / gear changing mistakes whereas if u make a bad guessed change etc.. you can really notice it in a type r/vtec i love em. real driving satisfaction if you get it right.

only the new 182 has VVT

GIBBS

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1st Apr 04 at 15:47

quote:
Originally posted by Patrick
I love my Astra. It does a 14.6 1/4 and could do a lot faster.

If they are not very good cars, why do they win nearly everything on the touring car circuit??

they don't I think you'll find CTR's led the way last season.

Robbo

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1st Apr 04 at 15:48

GIBBS

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1st Apr 04 at 15:48

quote:
Originally posted by Robbo

quote:
Originally posted by GIBBS
does the clio cup not have variable valve timing too? just not used in a so efficient way.
I think it deman's more skill to drive a vtec fast then a car with torque, as the torque can cover up driving / gear changing mistakes whereas if u make a bad guessed change etc.. you can really notice it in a type r/vtec i love em. real driving satisfaction if you get it right.

only the new 182 has VVT

ok my mistake. but does show, all car's are moving toward's the vvt route.

Screaming Vtec

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1st Apr 04 at 15:49

I think you get two kinds of driving enthusiasts..

1. those who love driving, the handling, power delivery etc..

2. those that just want figures, as it gives them a bit of a confidence boost.

I couldnt give a shit if an Integra Type R did 0-60 in 20 seconds, if it was as much of a laugh to drive as it is now, I wouldnt be bothered..

Robbo

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1st Apr 04 at 15:49

yep, toyota/honda hav used it 4 a while now other are cottoning on

Patrick

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1st Apr 04 at 15:49

I think you'll find they didn't.

Screaming Vtec

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1st Apr 04 at 15:50

quote:
Originally posted by GIBBS
does the clio cup not have variable valve timing too? just not used in a so efficient way.
I think it deman's more skill to drive a vtec fast then a car with torque, as the torque can cover up driving / gear changing mistakes whereas if u make a bad guessed change etc.. you can really notice it in a type r/vtec i love em. real driving satisfaction if you get it right.

Thats what im trying to say

Anyone can drive a torquey car fast..

nik

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1st Apr 04 at 15:50

I think your find this thread is getting gay.

Robbo

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1st Apr 04 at 15:51

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Originally posted by Patrick
I think you'll find they didn't.

They didnt win no but they certaionly are on the way 2 the top

Screaming Vtec

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1st Apr 04 at 15:51

I think it proves my point when Patrick has to quote his cars performance in his sig..

nik

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1st Apr 04 at 15:52

I've got half the ctr touring car bodykit

GIBBS

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1st Apr 04 at 15:54

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Originally posted by Screaming Vtec
I think it proves my point when Patrick has to quote his cars performance in his sig..

Robbo

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1st Apr 04 at 15:54

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I've got half the ctr touring car bodykit

U goin ahead with the stripping out etc of 1??

Patrick

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1st Apr 04 at 15:55

quote:
Originally posted by Screaming Vtec
I think it proves my point when Patrick has to quote his cars performance in his sig..

That's been my sig for months now. So what

nik

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1st Apr 04 at 15:56

quote:
Originally posted by Robbo

quote:
Originally posted by nik
I've got half the ctr touring car bodykit
U goin ahead with the stripping out etc of 1??

was going to build a track car but can't be arsed/dont have time now

got one skirt, front bumper, bonnet

Robbo

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1st Apr 04 at 15:56

D'oh! spose u got an Evo now tho

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