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shorty235
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27th Mar 04 at 17:38   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

i dont know much about turbos so this may sound daft. but can u just stick a turbo on a NA engine even if for just a little amount of power? i have a spare inlet and outlet manifold. or do ya need all internals changed and compression?
Kris TD
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27th Mar 04 at 17:42   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

no you cant, its not very easy
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27th Mar 04 at 17:45   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Its not an easy job in the slightest, even with a low power turbo. You need a custom zaust manifold for the turbo, all the neccesary pipework plus turbo, lower the compression, fit stronger rod bolts, pistons etc etc then think about uprating brakes.
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oh yeah, then get it to run with a good mixture and set up properly with a re-mappable ECU done on a dyno. lol
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28th Mar 04 at 00:12   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

u can turbo your car with a t15 turbo quiet easily.

U need
1. A Garrett T15 Turbo
2. exhaust manifold made for turbo
3. hoses
4. FSE boost valve
5. unichip

bad news is u only get 25 bhp and a dump valve sound

[Edited on 28-03-2004 by littletriad]
Fraser Young
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28th Mar 04 at 00:17   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

the KKK took my baby awayyy....
(Ramones, The)
J da Silva
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28th Mar 04 at 08:57   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

lot of money to fork out just for the sound of waste boost being shoved out of a metal thing
shorty235
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28th Mar 04 at 16:07   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

its a 1.4 16v. i have a fse boost valve. could i modify my spare manifold to fit a turbo. where could i get the turbo and hoses? how much will all this cost?
miles
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28th Mar 04 at 16:28   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Depends whether you want a new one, what you want, what hoses you want etc etc etc

You could get a used T2 for about £100, then use industrial hoses which should be fairly cheap.

Get a IC off something that had it as standard.
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28th Mar 04 at 16:46   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

then lower the compression. XE engines run silly high compression ratios, 10.5:1 for the 14XE i think. Its 11:1 for the C16XE, you need to bring it down to about 8:1
Cybermonkey
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28th Mar 04 at 16:46   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

or it will go pop
miles
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28th Mar 04 at 17:29   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

8:1 is very low for a low pressure turbo. Some turbo engines use 9.5:1, I think the let is 9:1
Anton2K3
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28th Mar 04 at 17:49   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

can get manifold from PVD i think it is..fits x14xe and x16xe engines, and can bolt a turbo straight onto them...but the rest u have 2 fighre out for urself!
miles
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28th Mar 04 at 19:03   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Courtenay sell them. Lots though.
Siberia
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28th Mar 04 at 19:25   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

if ure after the dump valve sound just get one of them whistle things in your Zorst

fiting a turbo to a na engine will cost packet for shag all gain.

[Edited on 28-03-2004 by Siberia]
Davido
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28th Mar 04 at 19:29   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

whistle things theyre appalling and so r u for promoting them.
J da Silva
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28th Mar 04 at 19:29   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by miles
Courtenay sell them. and will bum you,spunk up your ringpiece and ignore you once the turbo fucks up after 3 days.


spot on mate
Davido
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28th Mar 04 at 19:29   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

yeah while ur out buying ur whistle gets some neon washer jets and sum of them wkd chrome wheel trims

[Edited on 28-03-2004 by daveyboyuk]
Siberia
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28th Mar 04 at 19:38   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

whats wrong with whistles
shorty235
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28th Mar 04 at 20:45   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

is it defo not possible to fit a turbo without lowering the compression? doesnt the unichip help do this?

like i say i dont know much about them so after fitting to the manifold, what hoses are needed and go where?
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28th Mar 04 at 21:06   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

The unichip dont lower the compression, compression is set by how close the piston comes to the head, to lower the compression you need a thicker gasket, i have heard courteney do this by using 3 gaskets but this is a shite was to do it, all the unichip does is adjust you fuel etc going into the engine
shorty235
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28th Mar 04 at 21:26   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

hasnt anyone fitted a turbo to their na car. i need advice. even if the gains wernt that much, its better than nothing
Anton2K3
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28th Mar 04 at 22:45   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

i'm with u on that shorty...if ya find out how 2 do it...let me no! i would b interested in doin it too! what bout if u use 3 steel gasketc to lower compression? then need to bolt on manifold and turbo, and have pipe from turbo to inlet manifold...what am i missing, any other pipes? unless have FMIC.
Fraser Young
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28th Mar 04 at 22:59   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Why not jus get inlet/carbs for far cheaper an at a higher reliability....
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speak to carnoisseurcraig about this. he has fitted a 1.4 turbo in his corsa

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