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vaux85
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   8th Mar 04 at 22:30   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

would lowering 50mm on just springs damage my standard shockers, and would it catch on my 195/50 15's vauxhall offset rims

cheers guys
bubble
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8th Mar 04 at 22:33   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

wont damage shockers
Kerry
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8th Mar 04 at 22:34   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

they will wear out pretty quickly yes u are better try to uprate them
BabyBlade
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8th Mar 04 at 22:34   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

wouldnt catch, not sure about ruining your dampers tho, imagine the ride wud be a bit shite?
BabyBlade
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8th Mar 04 at 22:35   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

good going guys three answers in under a min
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quote:
Originally posted by bubblevaux
wont damage shockers


as above. wont damage shockers.
LukeGSi
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8th Mar 04 at 22:36   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

isnt a good idea to lower on standard shocks, it'll be a shite ride and the shocks will die fairly quickly but no shouldnt rub!!
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quote:
Originally posted by bubblevaux
wont damage shockers


huh?? it'll damage the shocks tho
bubble
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8th Mar 04 at 22:38   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

i dont understand why people say they damage shockers. during a normal drive in a car shockers can be compressed up to 100mm. going over a spped hump can compress the shocker by 50mm EASY. Gas shockers dont wear out because hydraulics inside is designed to take forces up to 3 times the weight of the car.
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8th Mar 04 at 22:39   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

obviously because standard shocks are not designed for the harsher ride of hardend springs

its got nothin to do with how low u go its the poundage
LukeGSi
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quote:
Originally posted by bubblevaux
i dont understand why people say they damage shockers. during a normal drive in a car shockers can be compressed up to 100mm. going over a spped hump can compress the shocker by 50mm EASY. Gas shockers dont wear out because hydraulics inside is designed to take forces up to 3 times the weight of the car.


wrong!! the life of your shocks is greatly reduced by fitting lowering springs!!
BabyBlade
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8th Mar 04 at 22:42   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

i agree with kerry and born_upsidedown
LukeGSi
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quote:
Originally posted by Sethion33
i agree with kerry and born_upsidedown


Grrrr its born_upsideout but im glad u agree
Kerry
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hahahahaha



we make a good team
bubble
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just checked.
depending on brand of spring and vehicle, lowering is possible without knackering shockers. it depends on the pressure exerted on shock absorber in lb f/in, and the relative return of the spring. so basically with different makes of spring will allow for a big drop without damaging the shocker.
bubble
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8th Mar 04 at 22:54   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

and vauxhall corsa b and c standard shockers(rear) can take 3300lb on one 'force load cell', whatever that is
LukeGSi
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i didnt say the shock would instantly self distruct and explode but its life will be greatly reduced and the handling will be gash!!

[Edited on 08-03-2004 by born_upsideout]
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quote:
Originally posted by born_upsideout
i didnt say the shock would instantly self distruct and explode but its life will be greatly reduced and the handleing will be gash!!


handling will be gash ure right. i was wrong with initial comment but on some applications, with some make of spring it is possible without knackerin them.
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8th Mar 04 at 22:58   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

it will shorten the life span indicated of a standard shock that has been tested with recommended springs

its like changing oil without a filter
Dave
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The more you lower the more strain you put on the shock as it is already heavily compressed when at rest.

Relatively modest drops on good springs (Eibach) shouldn't do any real damage compared to dropping 60mm on Apex for example.
bubble
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quote:
Originally posted by Kerry
it will shorten the life span indicated of a standard shock that has been tested with recommended springs

in that case then any1 with new corsa c change springs for lowerin ones cuz vauxhall say u only get 1yr warranty with shockers, so fuck em now cuz later wont matter
Kerry
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can u say again please
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im lowered -40mm on jst springs on 15s and the ride is shocking, evry small dent u go over is like going over a speed bump the car jumps everywhere well bad
R Lee
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9th Mar 04 at 00:26   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by vaux85
would lowering 50mm on just springs damage my standard shockers, and would it catch on my 195/50 15's vauxhall offset rims

cheers guys


they will wear out a little faster than they would if they were on standard springs. my advice would be to get some decent dampers with your springs to eliminate the shitty bouncy ride. as for catching, i don't see it would be a problem at all as you have vauxhall offset rims.

 
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