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Mr.Mcrae
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9th Feb 04 at 19:31   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

does anybody know how much roughly it would cost to build a 4wd corsa from scratch ?

thanks
miles
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9th Feb 04 at 19:36   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Depends how much you can do yourself.
Siberia
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9th Feb 04 at 19:48   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

lots and lots in fact i'm not to sure how yad go about it
Dom
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alright boss, yea its possible but alot of work involved. Ive thought about doing it, someone is doing it (do a search for a posty made by me about 3months ago) and someone else was looking at doing it
Thing is, it wouldnt be worth it if you had a shity little engine, so a 2lt would have to be done. Then you would have to weld on the back end of a 4x4 cally floorpan to the back end of the corsa (so you would have to strip the thing etc). Then you would have to remove fuel tanks and place them in the back and re-route the exhaust (someone said to me about leaving the backseats out and getting the exhaust to go inside the car behind the handbrake and out through the back, like bumper or even boot lid etc). Also the back axles need shorting if you take them from a cally (i think).

So yea its possible and you would need about 5 grand maybe..ish...well 2lt convertion will set ya back about 2 grand, done and fitted. need a donnar 4x4 cally, around 700-1000 quid (amybe more for a decent nick one), then all of the labour to get someone to do it. Obviously if you do it yourself, if will be cheaper.

would be sweet if one was made but i dont think anyone is up for the hassle of doing it
miles
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9th Feb 04 at 20:42   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

If your going to pay 2k for a xe conversion then your not the sort of person to do this yourself!

2k for a cally/cav turbo, sell the engine (1k), or use it in the corsa. Weld chop out the corsa floor pan and replace with cav/cally. Lots of fabrication needed to underside of car. Custom or modded rear shafts and prop shaft. The cav/cally box (f28), tbx and rest of 4x4 set up.

Could be done fairly cheaply if you can do it yourself.

Doesn't sound hard, in reality getting the geometry totally spot on will be a nightmare.

Once you have the floor pan and 4x4 system installed, the fuel tank, exhaust etc will be childsplay.
BabyBlade
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9th Feb 04 at 22:29   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

right i dont know much but here goes my interpretation

First off obviously use the f28 gearbox.

use the c20let (2.0 turbo) as they're used with those gearboxe's.

the c20let conversion into the corsa is 3k correct?

instead of doing the floorpan (which i think is the correct way but i'm being controversial ) wouldn't it be possible to cut the mounting plates off the corsa rear beam and replace the mounting brackets off the 4x4 back axle and bolt it on?

dont they do this with rear disc conversions i read somewhere?

then all you need is a shortened prop shaft.

can see the whole conversion being done under 4k and tbh think it would be a pretty mental corsa!!

not quite sure what i'm on about with the rear beam but a bit of choppin n welding n your there
Siberia
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9th Feb 04 at 22:41   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Rear diff?

is the engine in a caibra turned the oposite way to a corsa?

u need to mount a drive shaft fron front to back?

i'm not to sure how the calibra is layed out

just thinking its sumthing like a sierra cosworth underneath?

ewwwww this is just messy!

BabyBlade
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9th Feb 04 at 22:45   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

now you mention yes the engine could be the other way around??

still think chopping the corsa mounting brackets off the corsa beam and onto the 4x4 rear diff is the way forward
ainsley_brader
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9th Feb 04 at 22:46   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

calibra is transverse mounted same as corsa.
Sethion I dont think the cally is solid rear axle i believe its independant rear suspension.
Also you need a tunnel for the propshaft to go through.
Which therefore requires relocating exhaust and fuel tanks.
I believe you also have to mount the steering rack higher up.

Ainsley
Siberia
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9th Feb 04 at 22:47   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

feck four wheel drive big 3.0 v6 mid mounted RWD seems alot more doable
Siberia
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9th Feb 04 at 22:49   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by ainsley_brader
calibra is transverse mounted same as corsa.
Sethion I dont think the cally is solid rear axle i believe its independant rear suspension.
Also you need a tunnel for the propshaft to go through.
Which therefore requires relocating exhaust and fuel tanks.
I believe you also have to mount the steering rack higher up.

Ainsley


which brings u back to neading the whole floor pan
luca2020
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10th Feb 04 at 02:30   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by Siberia
feck four wheel drive big 3.0 v6 mid mounted RWD seems alot more doable


would be much better to use the 2.0 Turbo or 2.o 16v on TBs than a 3.0 v6, there just to heavy and dont produce enough power for there size, also the other 2 engines are cheeper to increase power

but i agree that a rear/mid-mounted rwd seems easier than a 4x4
Aussie GSi
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   10th Feb 04 at 05:34   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Get 2 engines! One in the back, one in the front. Front engine drives front wheels, and rear engine drives the rears! Like the VR6 Golf and the Nova that Max Power has had recently. Fcukin' ballistic! 0-100km/h (0-62mp/h) in 4 seconds or something batshiitt like that!

Aus

[Edited on 10-02-2004 by Aussie GSi]
Siberia
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thats been done already but like its not really practical for going down the shops for a lof of bread now is it?

ive seen a RWD nova with a ford 2.0 pinto engine. But it was a hot rod up at the local sunday races

id say he cut half the floor away inside and i could deffo see that the bulhead had been completey gutted out and his own structure was put in

the engine was in the front and bugger me it did half shift! nobody could catch it!
BeArDy
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10th Feb 04 at 15:31   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Used 4x4 system from Calibra Turbo.
Increased front track with of corsa so that it is the same as the calibras. (as using calibra driveshafts all round)
Removed steering rack & refitted 30mm higher up bulkhead so as to clear transferbox. Still very tight though.
Fabricated new lower crossmember to accept rear gearbox mount.

Rear- cut original corsa floor pan out to behind front seats. Weld in Calibra floor pan to mount original calibra independant rear suspension & diff. Petrol tank fabricated in boot.

Prop shaft shortened by 180mm. (taken from the the third section of the shaft at the rear diff end).

It is possible to do, but involves a lot of time to make parts, fit them, remove them, modifiy them then refit them etc.

and has been done before a few times
Mo
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10th Feb 04 at 16:41   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

doesn't 'bat' in liverpool have that rally corsa and isn't that 4x4?
LukeGSi
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10th Feb 04 at 16:49   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by BeArDy
Used 4x4 system from Calibra Turbo.
Increased front track with of corsa so that it is the same as the calibras. (as using calibra driveshafts all round)
Removed steering rack & refitted 30mm higher up bulkhead so as to clear transferbox. Still very tight though.
Fabricated new lower crossmember to accept rear gearbox mount.
Rear- cut original corsa floor pan out to behind front seats. Weld in Calibra floor pan to mount original calibra independant rear suspension & diff. Petrol tank fabricated in boot.
Prop shaft shortened by 180mm. (taken from the the third section of the shaft at the rear diff end).
It is possible to do, but involves a lot of time to make parts, fit them, remove them, modifiy them then refit them etc.
and has been done before a few times


wow when you put it like that it sounds so simple
BeArDy
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10th Feb 04 at 17:08   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Bats corsa is FWD
4x4 corsa are few and far between

reg for the 2lt turbo 4x4 corsa is DAZ 2995

there are a few other 4x4 corsa but i only know of 1 maybe 2 road ones
Dave
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10th Feb 04 at 18:13   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

I remember seeing a fair while back a Corsa that used Subaru running gear. It was used for rallying though, I'll see if I can find it again.

 
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