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Mo
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6th Jan 04 at 17:51   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

i've got a 1.6 16v sport with a piper inducation kit (not viper) and a 2 inch cat back exhaust system. i wanna start moding the engine but don't know what to do first.

don't go all hardcore on me cause i don't know much about engines.

any opinions
Kris TD
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6th Jan 04 at 17:53   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

velos torque tube, about 400 quid and adds 20 bhp.
BeArDy
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6th Jan 04 at 17:56   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

or Mantez
Mo
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6th Jan 04 at 17:58   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

would a velos torque tube work with all the existing parts?
Karnage Corsa
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is the mantzel the inlet manifold and the lower manifold too ?
miles
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6th Jan 04 at 18:25   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

No. Torque tube costs £285 for the kit. Your not going to get better bhp per £ with any other na engine.

Again. inlet manifold sticky thread needed.
Mo
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does anyone know how hard it is to fit?
Adam-D
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if you dont know engines id say get a garage to fit it
Karnage Corsa
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Can anyone tell me what they think the mantzel inlet manifold lower manifold and a superchip would add to a GSI, have not had it on a rolling road all I have is a powerflow dual exit exhaust so its pretty much standard ?
Mo
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if it's not too hard to fit i can get a mate to do it who's know more about engines than me.

if it needs to be professionally fitted then i'll get it done at velos
miles
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Its fairly easy to fit, you have to start somewhere, have a stab yourself or do it with a mate.
Mo
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cheers miles, i think i'll give it a go. just waiting for my next pay day now
Mo
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any tips on fitting anyone??
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never fitted one of the manzel type manifolds, but have fitted 2 lexmaul type ones, they take about 1hours to fit, but a tad fiddley! the manzel type one will take longer than that tho as it involves moving the throttle body, will come with instructions cant go wrong with it id have thought!
Mo
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broster - i'm thinking of getting the torque tube. u seem to be talking about the manifold.

have i missed something?
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torgue tube is the inlet manifold, when i talk about manifold i mean inlet!
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http://www.velosmotorsport.co.uk/vaux.htm look at this link and the rest of thier site for more info about the velos products!
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iv got a velos torque tube...takes about 4 hours hours to fit.

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Mo
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seen the site - cheers.

i'm not 100% clued up on the terminology so i just get confused
miles
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Fitting my mantzel powerbox was one the first major things I did on my own. Just make sure you dont need the car for a while incase you get stuck on something.

If you get stuck you can get help on here.
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yup get a velos tube, £445 fitted by them and it will work with your existing mods. I plan to be getting one soon, only thing putting me off is the ugliness of the damn thing!
LukeGSi
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they ugly then....any1 got any pics????
Greasemonkey
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yeah they are dam ugly, but thats not what it is about unless ya into show and shine which i wanna get into this summer.
I got a Mantzel power box and fitted it myself took about 12 hours, like miles first thing i ever did to my engine, with the sport X16XE fitting the box is easier and takes half the time cos the GSI with the C16XE engine has to have its lower manifold changed to that of the sport
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Sooooooo for £285 (without fitting) I could get 22 bhp on my 90 bhp engine? So 112 bhp is possible with the torque tube thing?

I'm getting one asap.
Could a normal garage fit them for cheaper than £160?

And will it drink petrol?
dave17
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7th Jan 04 at 00:11   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

u get a 25% increase on bhp from the 1.4 16v:

90 divided by 100 = 0.9

0.9 x 125 = 112.5bhp

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