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RobHayes
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11th Jul 06 at 14:47   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
engine = smoking real bad

had the head off today, bores are perfect, except oil everywhere, so looks like rings are ok, all head is new, valve seals etc
where the hell is the oil coming from?

all cylinders are oily, but 3&4 are worst, apparently the head bolts were tight, but not 'tight' if that makes sense

help!!
TomSBD
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11th Jul 06 at 15:00   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
valve guides. mine did it bad

i changed my rings before i realised what it was lol
vaux-tech
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11th Jul 06 at 15:06   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
check to see if any guides are cracked
RobHayes
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11th Jul 06 at 15:11   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
how do i check that? they were all brand new, not done 10 miles yet
mitch2
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i've seen it on one of those, where the bores are fine but the piston rings are not. If you have a new head then doubt it is that. Also you said the head bolts were not tight. It that is the case then oil would be leaking on to the outside of the block too.
Dave A
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11th Jul 06 at 19:20   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
how bad is it smoking?

are the rings new? thought you rebuilt it all?
RobHayes
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i thought i'd rebuilt it all.

it filled a full size workshop (2 ramps plus space for a 3rd car) in 10-15minutes with smoke

ran smooth as a nut, just smoked
Dave A
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11th Jul 06 at 19:36   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
definately oil burning?
RobHayes
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yes, as there are puddles of it in the pockets on the pistons. just dont know how its getting in there
Dave A
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11th Jul 06 at 19:39   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
leakdown compression test done?
RobHayes
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no, as it was assumed to be the rings as that was the only bit i did myself, the rest was done by a pro. the same bloke has the engine now to try and sort it, but cant find any problems. i dont want to have to pay to strip it all down to find there's nothing wrong
Dave A
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well, there must be something wrong! a bit of oil burning can be normal on a re-built engine during run-in but sound a bit more than that.

a compression test should show up the problem.
RobHayes
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there is something wrong. just cant find it! there was oil everywhere apparently. but no obvious source to the leaking.

compression test would mean putting it all back together though? how would you turn the engine over quickly enough without it being in the car?
Dave A
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11th Jul 06 at 20:00   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
ah, thought it was still in the car.

RobHayes
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nope, its all out on a workbench. going up tomorrow to do a bit of work myself to keeps costs down. might just take it all to bits myself and pay for it to be re-rebuilt and get it done with
Dave A
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11th Jul 06 at 20:02   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
is the head off?
lee mitchell
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quote:
Originally posted by Dave A
is the head off?


engine = smoking real bad

had the head off today, bores are perfect, except oil everywhere, so looks like rings are ok, all head is new, valve seals etc
where the hell is the oil coming from?

all cylinders are oily, but 3&4 are worst, apparently the head bolts were tight, but not 'tight' if that makes sense

help!!
ainsley_brader
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11th Jul 06 at 21:01   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
Well if the heads off it wont take five minutes to get the pistons out to have a look at them?

Ains
RobHayes
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12th Jul 06 at 09:11   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
thats todays plan, if the bus ever turns up. if anything is going to go wrong, today is the day. so far i've earnt myself a puncture biking home from work, and some dozy old bint has driven straight into my dads audi, didnt even see him until she hit him

 
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