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Thats all well and good but apart from Torres and gerrard no other Liverpool player (possibly alonso) would get into the utd squad
Squad?!
Reina, Arbeloa, one of Carra, Agger and Skrtel, Mascherano....would all get in the squad.
Reina, Mascherano, Alonso, Gerrard and Torres would all walk into the United starting 11 IMO.
 Bollocks they would
Alonso is no better than carrick, and mascherano does no better a job than anderson does
Also think VDS and reina are about equal, imo both overrated
Like I said, Alonso/Carrick is a debatable choice. It could go either way, but I rate Alonso.
If you think Anderson if better than Masch then you're fucking dillusional. Honestly, that is Doyle style dillusion.
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Carragher would walk straight into the Utd squad, and into the first team at right back.
I don't even think cosmo could agree with that tbh, wes brown is in a different league to carragher in terms of being a right back
He is as good as Wes Brown. Prob not as good as O'Shea has been recently. Depends if you are after a solid defender (which he wins hands down for above the rest) or someone who can attack too.
Personally I think Arbeloa is a better RB than Carra.
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I think O'shea has just been filling in, nowhere near as good as wes brown is, going forward and in defence
I don't think carragher is a RB at all, he's a centre back and imo cannot play RB to the level he can CB, hence why he never got in the england squad, too many better players at CB, and he just isnt good enough at RB
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If you think Anderson if better than Masch then you're fucking dillusional. Honestly, that is Doyle style dillusion.
Not really dillusional, masch does much the same as anderson, but doesn't offer the same level of passing ability, imo they are very equal, but to say masch is in a different class (which im assuming from the fucking dillusional) is way way off the mark
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Agreed about RB, even he hates playing there. IMO he was once good enough for England CB, but I never lost any sleep about him not getting a place, better for us.
Oh, and you're still dillusional.
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Fish as much as you like
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If you think Anderson if better than Masch then you're fucking dillusional. Honestly, that is Doyle style dillusion.
Not really dillusional, masch does much the same as anderson, but doesn't offer the same level of passing ability, imo they are very equal, but to say masch is in a different class (which im assuming from the fucking dillusional) is way way off the mark
Seriously, take the glasses off.
Masch is world class. He is probably the best in that position in the world at the moment.
Anderson cant even get in to the Unied team over Fletcher.
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Seriously, take the glasses off.
Practice what you preach
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Fish as much as you like
Im not, really Im not.
I honestly cant believe you think Anderson is as good
Even a Brazilian Jiz will tell you Masch is better than his fellow countryman.
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Essien is better than Masch.
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As i said with anderson, he has had a lot of injuries this year, and been in and out of the team, and unlike liverpool, players arent able to walk back into a winning team
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Essien is better than Masch.
And i'll agree with that, i was trying to think of a player to say was much better than masch, nath has pointed it out
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Essien is better than Masch.
Different types of player. Essien is much much more attacking.
Im talking of a proper holding midfielder.
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Fish as much as you like
Im not, really Im not.
I honestly cant believe you think Anderson is as good
Even a Brazilian Jiz will tell you Masch is better than his fellow countryman.
I fail to see what Masch offers that anderson doesnt
As far as i can see, masch breaks up the play, and then passes it to the more creative players
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Essien is better than Masch.
Different types of player. Essien is much much more attacking.
Im talking of a proper holding midfielder.
Essien isnt attacking. Not in my eyes. Lampard is attacking. If we're talking about central midfield players.
I'd compare Lamps to Gerrard, and Masch to Essien.
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Essien is better than Masch.
Different types of player. Essien is much much more attacking.
Im talking of a proper holding midfielder.
Ahh right, so now you are only talking about a holding midfielder, and not a holding midfielder who attacks also, we can't compare anderson and masch
Because both united's best centre mids, infact all of them (including hargreaves) are holding players who attack and create
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Yes, he is a defensive midfielder. Infact more than that, he is an out and out holding midfielder. And IMO he is the best at that job in the world.
He isnt an Essien, who IMO is being restrained as is a much more attacking player naturally.
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Yes, he is a defensive midfielder. Infact more than that, he is an out and out holding midfielder. And IMO he is the best at that job in the world.
He isnt an Essien, who IMO is being restrained as is a much more attacking player naturally.
Essien is the sole reason why chelsea slumped this season imo
And now he is back he also makes chelsea very overpriced for the league next season.
And imo he is a world class holding midfield player, who has one hell of a strike on him
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I'd sooner have Essien. Seeing as they both play in the same holding role.
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Ahh right, so now you are only talking about a holding midfielder, and not a holding midfielder who attacks also, we can't compare anderson and masch
Because both united's best centre mids, infact all of them (including hargreaves) are holding players who attack and create
So now?! When did I ever say Masch attacks? He doesnt. He sits and breaks up the oppositions play - hence he is a true holding midfielder.
I dont know, or care, if you class Anderson as that. Either way he isnt as good.
Essien IMO isnt a holding midfielder, he is much more attacking. Much like Lampard, Alonso, Gerrard, Carrick etc. etc. arent holding midfielders.
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Essien is the sole reason why chelsea slumped this season imo
I said to my Dad the other day that if Chelsea had Hiddink from Day 1, and kept Essien fit they'd have won the League.
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Ahh right, so now you are only talking about a holding midfielder, and not a holding midfielder who attacks also, we can't compare anderson and masch
Because both united's best centre mids, infact all of them (including hargreaves) are holding players who attack and create
So now?! When did I ever say Masch attacks? He doesnt. He sits and breaks up the oppositions play - hence he is a true holding midfielder.
I dont know, or care, if you class Anderson as that. Either way he isnt as good.
Essien IMO isnt a holding midfielder, he is much more attacking. Much like Lampard, Alonso, Gerrard, Carrick etc. etc. arent holding midfielders.
Lamps and Gerrard are nothing like Alonso and Carrick. The latter are nowhere near as attacking!
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Essien I agree with. He is a world class player. He just isnt a holding midfielder IMO. Either way, both him and Masch are lightyears better than Anderson (who I rate btw).
I dont get the Hiddink think. Anyone who watched the Scolari Chavski for the first 2-3 months of the season would of been running to the bookies to put a bet on them winning the league.
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Ahh right, so now you are only talking about a holding midfielder, and not a holding midfielder who attacks also, we can't compare anderson and masch
Because both united's best centre mids, infact all of them (including hargreaves) are holding players who attack and create
So now?! When did I ever say Masch attacks? He doesnt. He sits and breaks up the oppositions play - hence he is a true holding midfielder.
I dont know, or care, if you class Anderson as that. Either way he isnt as good.
Essien IMO isnt a holding midfielder, he is much more attacking. Much like Lampard, Alonso, Gerrard, Carrick etc. etc. arent holding midfielders.
No, i am saying that anderson is not only a holding player, who can happily sit all day and tackle, help the defence, he is much more creative also, and is probably similar to alonso than masch
But still, masch certainly isnt the best in the world in his position, essien is
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