JadeM
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Originally posted by jr
colin  all im trying to get across is the dealer make no money, the manufacture gets most of it, any dealer that actully runs at a profit is a rare one
Pish pash poof....dont believe that for a second!! Henry Bro's BMW (Main Glasgow BMW) owners live 2 streets away in the biggest house ive seen & there the richest folk in town!! Honest I think they fart £50 notes 
Dont believe for a second theres many that are hard up....unless there Rover franchise  
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JadeM
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I don't work anywhere like that.
I just know most if not everybody in here would pay more to get something they own or want dealt with to take it to somewhere who has the badge.
Only if there single mums, old ladys or generally stupid...like you said 
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davey_jack
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I am always cautious when an advert for a car says "full main dealer service history", for example with a mercedes, my mum took her 190E in to be serviced, and they wanted around £115 to change some spark plugs!
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JadeM
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I am always cautious when an advert for a car says "full main dealer service history", for example with a mercedes, my mum took her 190E in to be serviced, and they wanted around £115 to change some spark plugs!
Fear factor....if you dont have FFSH your car will be worth less than a used tea bag when you come to sell it
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John
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I said for instance because that is the type of people I personally associated with being unable to change brake pads.
That may have been right or wrong.
As I said, my point is 100% valid till all of the 'official' garages go out of business.
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jr
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Originally posted by JadeM
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Originally posted by jr
colin all im trying to get across is the dealer make no money, the manufacture gets most of it, any dealer that actully runs at a profit is a rare one
Pish pash poof....dont believe that for a second!! Henry Bro's BMW (Main Glasgow BMW) owners live 2 streets away in the biggest house ive seen & there the richest folk in town!! Honest I think they fart £50 notes
Dont believe for a second theres many that are hard up....unless there Rover franchise
colin a guarentee you thats the truth, well down here it is
whats happning is the manufactures are buyin g out the dealersm then renting the sites back to them for a share of the profits, then cars and parts etc are sold cheaper to these dealers to retain more profit, which untimatley goes back to the manufacturer, either in rent or sales etc
im really not standing up for silly high bills etc, as i wouldnt pay them
just trying to make people realise its not our fault, all of the time
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Ajones_17
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Lets go down with theCorsa Sport crew and throw some weight about lmao
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JadeM
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10th richest man in Scotland - Sir Arnold Clark (car sales) £385m
He doesnt seem to be doing too bad either
[Edited on 18-09-2006 by JadeM]
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Steve
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Originally posted by ed
I would fit a rev limiter to my car which would prevent it from going over 10 mph if I had to leave it with a spanner monkey for 5 minutes.
i can switch my car into valet mode, stops it revving over 3k
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John
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What about the backstreet garages that charge stupid prices then?
They don't even have an official franchise to hide behind
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Ian
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Lookers Liverpool scratched my wheels on two separate occasions then denied bouncing cars up the kerb at the front of the showroom, despite it being covered in rubber and a car bouncing up it while I was stood there complaining.
You don't need training courses or £10k diagnostic machines to look after a set of wheels.
Standards are very low.
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John
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Yes taking care of cars is a different matter from whether they are justified charging higher prices or not.
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Carl
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Originally posted by JadeM
10th richest man in Scotland - Sir Arnold Clark (car sales) £385m
He doesnt seem to be doing too bad either
[Edited on 18-09-2006 by JadeM]
Colin Appleyard has a few quid too, had a race bike team and everything.
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jr
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Originally posted by Ian
Lookers Liverpool scratched my wheels on two separate occasions then denied bouncing cars up the kerb at the front of the showroom, despite it being covered in rubber and a car bouncing up it while I was stood there complaining.
You don't need training courses or £10k diagnostic machines to look after a set of wheels.
Standards are very low.
agreed simple and stupid mistakes like that should never happen
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Marc
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You should see Subarus prices!! £110 for a set of front brake pads and caliper bolts!! A major service can cost up to £600! Most I've ever paid is £424. An interim service costs me around £70 and I take my own oil. Servicing comes every 6 months. Cambelt changes are always expensive too!
Dealer has just lost the franchise so I don't know if I'm going to find a specialist now.
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Mattb
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Originally posted by JadeM
The sooner a reg. body comes in to monitor garages franchise & indepandant they can charge what they want.
Sooner somethings done the better!!!
The FSA???????????
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jr
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i forgot about that
yep were al governd by that, silly amounts of paperwork ive signed for that
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Mattb
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Originally posted by jr
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Originally posted by Ian
Lookers Liverpool scratched my wheels on two separate occasions then denied bouncing cars up the kerb at the front of the showroom, despite it being covered in rubber and a car bouncing up it while I was stood there complaining.
You don't need training courses or £10k diagnostic machines to look after a set of wheels.
Standards are very low.
agreed simple and stupid mistakes like that should never happen
This is true..
BUT
The thousands of pounds spent on training go into areas that i would not let an independant garage touch with a 50 billion foot barge pole, for example, anything to do with the CAN network, Airbag or ABS related, in fact anything on the electrical side of things tbh.
The amount of cars i see every week that have been to independants and fucked up is unreal and the plain stupidity of some of them is scary...
But back to OJC's original post... Complain i wouldn't stand for that kind of behavior!
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jr
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who was that to me or ian or everyone
and matt agreed some of the stuff i have seen is scary
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Mattb
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everyone..
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Ojc
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Just a little update here with regards to the brakes.
Rachel was told by this Vauxhall main dealership that her brake pads were worn 90% on the front 80% on the rear.
Last week a friend of her family was around who is a mechanic, so he goes out and checks the pads for her, takes the wheels off and guess what?
Front pads worn 50% rear pads worn 40%, said to her shes got a good year left on them 
Seriously question EVERYTHING that Vauxhall tell you because it will be a load of absolute bollocks.
If she hadn't been in the know about how they try it on she would have wasted 215 quid on something that didn't need doing
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CorsAsh
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Originally posted by Ojc
Seriously question EVERYTHING that Vauxhall tell you because it will be a load of absolute bollocks.
I concur.
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Ojc
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Bad experience Ash?
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davey_jack
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lol I was in my local vauxhall dealer the other day when I was asked by a mate to get a price to do discs and pads on a 05 plate astra 1.6 SXi, vauxhall quoted 289.50 plus VAT. what a load of jokers
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bubble
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lol I was in my local vauxhall dealer the other day when I was asked by a mate to get a price to do discs and pads on a 05 plate astra 1.6 SXi, vauxhall quoted 289.50 plus VAT. what a load of jokers
this is wrong. i work for a vauxhall dealer and some of the recent posts are shocking. however the gist from you guys is too tar every garage wiith the same brush. the above post 289.50+vat is madness. they are on a FIXED PRICE of £145 at my place-and that is Vauxhall prices-not our dealership prices.
a lot of people complain about labour rates. personally i dont see the problem,IF jobs are done correctly. our current labour rate is 65+vat p/hour. but we do a lot of fixed price jobs.labour rates are justified when u actually realise how expensive it is too run a dealership. my company employs well over 2000 staff throughoutt the local area,our Hanley site employs about 500 of them. we have to pay for the Vauxhall name,we have to meet certain standards to be able to continue selling and repairing cars,these include having £1000's of tools sent to us every month that we dont use bcuz we rarely need to, have to pay for tech2 and tis licenses,candi licenses,running expenses for 5 workshops,paying employees,paying public liability insurances,car insurances. silly little things like license to broadcast(we have radio in workshops)brochures for vauxhall offers,all little things like that we have to pay for.
i understand peoples grievances if sum1 thinks they are being ripped off,but its wrong to tar every garage with the same brush. not every garage is out there to rip every customer off.
it costs 89p to make a large meat feast pizza at pizza hut. but they sell them for £14? do people complain about that? figure out that labour rate
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