Jill
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Originally posted by Steve
vauxhall should have spent less time on pointless things like this and more time and money on say for example, kitting it out with a decent brembo brake system instead of painting the calipers blue and hoping noone would notice
[Edited on 07-03-2007 by Steve]
The brakes are quite a lot bigger than standard  they wouldn't be allowed to make a car if the brakes were off a 1.2 SXi.
As soon as they start buying in branded brakes, they start getting more hassle with things like warranties, royalties, repairs blaa blaa.
But IMO by having a set of branded brakes on a near £16k car would make it a bit more "top end of the market" ie: the ford focus rs has OZ racing alloys, recaro seats AND brembo brakes (with no major problems regarding royalities, warranties etc etc). And if I was gonna spend that amount of money on, apart from the fact I probably wouldn't waste that on a corsa in the first place, I would definitely want something "extra" and/or "fancy" to make it stand out a bit more than the norm. If that makes sence.
JILL 
[Edited on 07-03-2007 by Jill]
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Steve
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indeed, jill knows the score, vauxhall have made this car to impress the kids, they may have done a good job of that, they may not, but for me, its not serious enough for me to be impressed
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Robin
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Are we judging brakes on looks as well as seats now? 
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Daimo B
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Steve, you really are just negative with everything arn't you.
Brakes have been upgraded.
Suspension has been upgraded.
Engine has been upgraded.
Dash, seats, interior, dials etc, all upgraded.
Wheel, bodykit, guess what, ALL UPGRADED.
In fact, most of the car is upgraded
The "blipping" of the dials is another standard VXR thing. Probably takes 10 seconds of programming.
Its something only the VXRs do. Ignition on, dials flick to the end and back. I use this as my "ignition time" for all the systems to ready themselves for the cars start.
Watch this space for an approved Exhaust upgrade in the future as well....
Steve - A 4 pot upgrade will be available at some point.
Why put something on a car thats not needed and will cost a lot more to add to the car hence putting the overall price up??? The astra only has upgraded calipers and disks, and they worked fine even on track days? Have you driven one to push the brakes to see how good/bad they are yet? Clio Sport doesn't have 4 pots (maybe the special cup editions etc, but standard they don't). Neither does any of the small hot hatches (Fiesta ST etc).
Bejesus christ, try start looking and thinking outside your little box.
Deano, the Astras staying standard, its Donnas weekday work horse and my weekend play thing
[Edited on 07-03-2007 by VXR]
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jr
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yes robin, if this car wasnt a corsa, there would'nt be anywhere near this amount of put down and doubts on a car none of us have driven
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Steve
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Originally posted by VXR
Brakes have been upgraded.
Suspension has been upgraded.
Engine has been upgraded.
Dash, seats, interior, dials etc, all upgraded.
Wheel, bodykit, guess what, ALL UPGRADED.
upgraded to what? vents and crap that dont do anything ??
as for the dials, my megane used to do that, any electronic dials can be made to do that, like you say 10 mins of programming.
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Robin
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Steve, what exactly does that black section in the rear bumper of a 106 GTi do?
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Steve
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absolutely nothing, and noone is claiming it to do anything either
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jr
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steve the brakes have been upgraded to be better, thats all you need to worry about
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Steve
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how are they better? are the 4 pot? better than what? a 1.2 model? so they should be, doesnt mean they are still good.
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jr
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they will be 4 pots
knowone can say there bad either, i cant belive were all judging a car on how the brakes look and what plastic the dash is made from
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Steve
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noone can say they are bad, but if they were brembo we could definatly say they were good!
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Daimo B
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quote:
Originally posted by Steve
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Originally posted by VXR
Brakes have been upgraded.
Suspension has been upgraded.
Engine has been upgraded.
Dash, seats, interior, dials etc, all upgraded.
Wheel, bodykit, guess what, ALL UPGRADED.
upgraded to what? vents and crap that dont do anything ??
as for the dials, my megane used to do that, any electronic dials can be made to do that, like you say 10 mins of programming.
Damn your ignorence does make me laugh. I'll put it in nice big spaces so even you understand...
Brakes have been upgraded - THIS IS TO LARGER BRAKES AND BIGGER DISKS TO COPE WITH THE EXTRA POWER.
Suspension has been upgraded. - HAS UPRATED DAMPERS AND STIFFER LOWER SPRINGS TO AID HANDLING..
Engine has been upgraded - TO A 1.6 16v TURBO = SEE ABOVE>>>
Dash, seats, interior, dials etc, all upgraded - NEWER STYLE DIALS TO KEEP IN VXR RANGE (do you know what VXR stands for hence the sporty theme??????)
Wheel, bodykit, guess what - BIGGER WHEELS, MORE LAIRY KIT FOR IMPROVED ROAD PRESENCE...
So what if it has a few vents... Since when was there a rule book about bumpers n such? I must remember to contact VW about some of their bumper designs.......
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Steve
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yes i know what vxr stands for, its a clever marketting ploy to use the touring cars tuners name on road cars, it means nothing
[Edited on 07-03-2007 by Steve]
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Robin
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Originally posted by Steve
absolutely nothing, and noone is claiming it to do anything either
As far as I'm aware, no-one is claiming the vents on the Corsa do anything 
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Steve
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yes the rear diffuser aid performance apparently
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Daimo B
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quote:
Originally posted by Steve
noone can say they are bad, but if they were brembo we could definatly say they were good!
Wrong..... The cast calipers as used on the Megan and such arn't all that great, only come on the special editions, and are just as heavy as a standard cheaper brake setup.
The Astras brakes are fine, i have no doubt the brakes are any worse on the corsa.
Instead of being negative miserable whinger, why don't you keep the negative thoughts to yourself and let those who ARE interested in the car add their views?
You don't know FA about the car, but are happy to slate comment after reading auto express and seeing a few pictures
I bet you've not been in any type of VXR actually
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Steve
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Originally posted by jr
yes robin, if this car wasnt a corsa, there would'nt be anywhere near this amount of put down and doubts on a car none of us have driven
i cant elp but get the feeling people are worshipping this car for the very reason that its just a corsa, if this would have been a peugeot, it would have been put down
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Daimo B
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Originally posted by Steve
yes i know what vxr stands for, its a clever marketting ploy to use the touring cars tuners name on road cars, it means nothing
[Edited on 07-03-2007 by Steve]
Touring car tuners are 888?
I don't see no 888 VXR? I see a special edition Astra 888, tuned by, 888....
VXR is a brand.
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Steve
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Originally posted by VXR
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Originally posted by Steve
noone can say they are bad, but if they were brembo we could definatly say they were good!
Wrong..... The cast calipers as used on the Megan and such arn't all that great, only come on the special editions, and are just as heavy as a standard cheaper brake setup.
The Astras brakes are fine, i have no doubt the brakes are any worse on the corsa.
Instead of being negative miserable whinger, why don't you keep the negative thoughts to yourself and let those who ARE interested in the car add their views?
You don't know FA about the car, but are happy to slate comment after reading auto express and seeing a few pictures
I bet you've not been in any type of VXR actually
why dont people just let me get on with my own views then instead of arguing with me to try and change them
surely it doesnt matter what i think if the vxr is simply as good as is being made out.
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Daimo B
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Originally posted by Steve
yes the rear diffuser aid performance apparently
Do you know what a rear diffuser does Steve?? It can aid ANY car no matter how big or small, fast or slow.
Its called areodynamics, look it up, learn something real instead of learning your own opinion.
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Robin
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Originally posted by Steve
but if they were brembo we could definatly say they were good!
How? They could be shit
It would just be another grand on the price.
Like Daimo (who incidentally has actually driven a VXR branded model) says, the standard VXR sliding caliper and bigger disc setup is fine, why bother with more for the sake of impressing the max power generation with a name drio?
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Steve
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yes thanks daimo i know the purpose of a diffuser hence why its pointless on any car that is only capable of ~140mph its just for show
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Robin
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quote:
Originally posted by Steve
yes the rear diffuser aid performance apparently
That's nothing to do with the vents you moron 
Renault have diffusers, are you complaining about them?
A diffuser WILL aid performance, fact.
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Daimo B
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Originally posted by Steve
why dont people just let me get on with my own views then instead of arguing with me to try and change them
surely it doesnt matter what i think if the vxr is simply as good as is being made out.
Having an opinion is fine. Going on and on and on and on and on about the same thing, of which you don't really know anything about, just shows ignorence and stupiditty and a want to just cause trouble and arguments.
I've said this time after time. Having an opinion is fine, but when the opinion is full of mis guiding facts, and is repeated over and over again, it just makes you look a simpleton and really shows your lack of knowledge about cars.
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