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Author VTS vs EVO , quite a good vid at bruntingthorpe.
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id love an evo
im not saying its a better car because its not, im saying that all these people in this thread saying the evo wasnt trying blah blah, mustve been a crap driver etc,... i wouldnt be so sure

[Edited on 22-01-2007 by Steve]
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Would be a bit of a downgrade though hey Steve. 106 to an Evo
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Originally posted by joe6886
Who cares. Really 106's can go round corners. Wow lets have a wank, no-one really gives a shit. Give me an Evo any day of the week.


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I cant believe people saying hes not booting, why would he go out on track, nearly spin it as people have said trying to go round a corner to fast.

That saxo is probably nearly 200 bhp per tonne, if the evo is standard there wouldnt be much in it.
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I cant believe people saying hes not booting, why would he go out on track, nearly spin it as people have said trying to go round a corner to fast.

That saxo is probably nearly 200 bhp per tonne, if the evo is standard there wouldnt be much in it.


Bhp/tonne doesn't always make the difference. The Saxo was designed to be a quick good handling hatch. The Evo is a rally derived awd machine. If he was pushing it to its limits, like the saxo driver appears to be doing, pretty poorly tbh, then I think he would of easily pulled away.
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I do not believe.
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I cant believe people saying hes not booting, why would he go out on track, nearly spin it as people have said trying to go round a corner to fast.

That saxo is probably nearly 200 bhp per tonne, if the evo is standard there wouldnt be much in it.


on a track like bruntingthorpe there is noway what so ever a saxo, regardless of spec is faster than an evo

on a tight sprint track maybe, but not on an airfield
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So the evo was just semi trying then ?
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dont know, there is knowone that does know bar the driver of the evo, but everything is in favour of the evo beeing faster
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I cannot believe this is still going on, surely people are aware of the Evo's capabilitys? A CITREON SAXO OR 106 WILL NOT BEAT A EVO REGARDLESS OF STATE OF TUNE.
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Maybe the Evo driver was there to try to get to grips with his new car and didn't want to over do it and wreck his new pride and joy because of two twats in a saxo sitting up his arse?
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Why are they twat's for getting excited ?
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Originally posted by Ojc
I cannot believe this is still going on, surely people are aware of the Evo's capabilitys? A CITREON SAXO OR 106 WILL NOT BEAT A EVO REGARDLESS OF STATE OF TUNE.


noone is saying it will

PS i know of one tarmac rally 106 that will easily beat an EVO running a full cosworth 4wd system, 4 seconds to 60

[Edited on 22-01-2007 by Steve]
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i think in the handling stakes there really isnt a great deal in it, thats all im saying
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even if the power/weight ratio is EXACTLY the same, the Saxo will not be faster when being driven by the same person.

The DRIVER is the key point here, not the car
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Ok but the guy driving the saxo wasnt great either
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PS i know of one tarmac rally 106 that will easily beat an EVO running a full cosworth 4wd system, 4 seconds to 60



So not really a 106 then? more like a sierra with some 106 panels? suspension will all be sierra stuff...
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Why are they twat's for getting excited ?


Ok, if someone sat up behind you saying "get out of the fucking way you cunt" you'd look back and say, Gee those boys aren't half excited... Gotcha
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Originally posted by Steve
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I cannot believe this is still going on, surely people are aware of the Evo's capabilitys? A CITREON SAXO OR 106 WILL NOT BEAT A EVO REGARDLESS OF STATE OF TUNE.


noone is saying it will

PS i know of one tarmac rally 106 that will easily beat an EVO running a full cosworth 4wd system, 4 seconds to 60

[Edited on 22-01-2007 by Steve]


I know of an Evo... By norris design that will easily beat that 106
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So Rob, do you HONESTLY think that a FWD car with ~180bhp will be faster than a 4WD rally bred car with at least 280?

honestly?

I've beaten a Ferrari before btw.
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your all ignoring the video i posted earlier richard burns could drive the 106 faster through the corners than most of those ferraris, the skyline, the nsx etc etc, same driver
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Originally posted by Eckmcmann
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Originally posted by Steve
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Originally posted by Ojc
I cannot believe this is still going on, surely people are aware of the Evo's capabilitys? A CITREON SAXO OR 106 WILL NOT BEAT A EVO REGARDLESS OF STATE OF TUNE.


noone is saying it will

PS i know of one tarmac rally 106 that will easily beat an EVO running a full cosworth 4wd system, 4 seconds to 60

[Edited on 22-01-2007 by Steve]


I know of an Evo... By norris design that will easily beat that 106


yes however i was proving olivers statement factually incorrect
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your all ignoring the video i posted earlier richard burns could drive the 106 faster through the corners than most of those ferraris, the skyline, the nsx etc etc, same driver


How do you get he drove it through the corners faster At what part did it prove that Exactly. They said it was one of the best handling, didn't say it was faster through the corners... Stop adding arms and legs to stories mate. And that is from a video that I bought years ago. I think things have changed since then.
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No i think the evo should be quicker, it pulls away on teh straight a bit anyway, its the fact of people saying he wasnt trying etc that is annoying..
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quote:
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your all ignoring the video i posted earlier richard burns could drive the 106 faster through the corners than most of those ferraris, the skyline, the nsx etc etc, same driver



I watched the video. Liked it. Admitantly the 106 did do well.

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