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Chris@Speedfreex
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19th Aug 03 at 09:04   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

id love them to bring it out, but my point was, the majority of ppl that want it will be between wot 17 - 23 id hazard a guess at, anyoneabovethis will ave familes or just want biggercars

wot chance realy ave anyone under21 got to insure it,

and the only other reason i say this is the price its gonna be, id say 12, 995 easy on.

think wot kinda car u can get for the money today, like i say id love one yea, but ppl who wud buy dont look at it as a "corsa turbo" but as a hot hatch thats alot of money, where they can get summat to bequite honest alot better for the money
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yes its a supermini, but will be a bloody quick one at that!! Its typically aimed at the little market wanted by todays younger generation. Look at the Clio 172? Is that a supermini?? Yes it is! how much does it cost?
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about £13k!!!
Chris@Speedfreex
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like i sed b4 tho id love one and id love em to bring it out,

but personally i dont think it will cum out, i know they say they,

but its like ford, the focus cossie was went to be out last year, acoupleof years b4 that wen ford got the cosworth name bak, now they say next yeari bet that wont cum out.

manufacturers promise so much nowadays but just dont deliver.
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why all the hype and press releases for a car which might never see light of day?!?! Vauxhall are different nowadays. They are inventive and more importantly, they trust in their products. Look at the Signum, who would have thought that would be succesful?? its sales are very impressive so far, regardless of what jezza clarkson says. Look at the VX220 Turbo, it beats the Elise at its own game. The Corsa GSi is just the next logical step to compete in the hot hatch market, alongside its older sibling, the Astra GSi.

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i realy really wanna c it, but i just dnt think it will.

i know all the press releases but ford also did the same wiv the focus cossie. i know there different companies but still...........

its just my opinion,
Tom
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It will come out it's direct competition for the mini cooper s ctr and clio cup/sport....

Just need to get there arses into gear.....
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quote:
Originally posted by Tom D
It will come out it's direct competition for the mini cooper s ctr and clio cup/sport....

Just need to get there arses into gear.....


Dont think its competition for the Civic!!!!!
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well you would say that wouldnt you robbo. If it pushes out around 170bhp standard with about the same figures for torque, it will give the CTR a run for its money. Start cranking up the boost and it could easily see the good side of 200bhp with ease.
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quote:
Originally posted by Chris@Speedfreex
i realy really wanna c it, but i just dnt think it will.

i know all the press releases but ford also did the same wiv the focus cossie. i know there different companies but still...........

its just my opinion,


The Focus Cosworth is slated for release though. They were very sluggish releasing the RS. The same will happen this time, but will be even worse. Like you said, car manufacturers are terrible sticking to release dates.
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It would rape a civic if played with

It is aimed at the sort of people who would buy a 172, Cooper S, 106 GTi, maybe the Cupra R....... so there obviously is a market for these types of cars???

Its just people may get more car for the money when buying a Cooper-S as the workmanship is of another level. I mean just take a look at the interior for a start!
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106 GTi being the cheaper end of the scale and the Cooper S the more expensive
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quote:
Originally posted by Ditch
It would rape a civic if played with


No it wouldnt, belioeve me... it really wouldnt

And Cupra-R's (Leon that is) have 212bhp so its not gonna gt anywhere near that either - and how can you put a 106 GTi ( an a cooper s 4 that matter) in the same bracket as a CTR/Cupra R????? The CUpra R has 92bhp more than a GTi!!

[Edited on 19-08-2003 by RobboSRi]
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Originally posted by Cybermonkey24
well you would say that wouldnt you robbo.


Yes
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quote:
Originally posted by Cybermonkey24
well you would say that wouldnt you robbo. If it pushes out around 170bhp standard with about the same figures for torque, it will give the CTR a run for its money. Start cranking up the boost and it could easily see the good side of 200bhp with ease.



assuming the turbo can handle it
Ditch
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quote:
Originally posted by RobboSRi
quote:
Originally posted by Ditch
It would rape a civic if played with


No it wouldnt, belioeve me... it really wouldnt

And Cupra-R's (Leon that is) have 212bhp so its not gonna gt anywhere near that either - and how can you put a 106 GTi ( an a cooper s 4 that matter) in the same bracket as a CTR/Cupra R????? The CUpra R has 92bhp more than a GTi!!

[Edited on 19-08-2003 by RobboSRi]



I was merely pulling cars out of the air that would appeal to someone buying a fast car, i know the figures for them gimp boy.


Why wouldnt it?

A turbo is ALOT more tuneable than a screamin v-tec is it not?
and its Torque figures are ALOT more impressive are they not?
Is the corsa a smaller, more lightweight car?

=Civic gets wanked on
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I'd piss all over a civic
Ditch
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quote:
Originally posted by vibrio
quote:
Originally posted by Cybermonkey24
well you would say that wouldnt you robbo. If it pushes out around 170bhp standard with about the same figures for torque, it will give the CTR a run for its money. Start cranking up the boost and it could easily see the good side of 200bhp with ease.



assuming the turbo can handle it


Which it probably wont, as cybermonkey says if its 1600 it will be a new lump and bound to have some teething troubles
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regardless of what the competition is, there is a thriving market for 'hot - hatch' type cars at the moment, it will do well imo....
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quote:
Originally posted by vibrio
I'd piss all over a civic





not according to ButholeSRI who seems to think the CTR will beat everything
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sorry im bored @ work and just lookin for an arguement
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you have a right to argue Rich. Robbosri is really worried that a stock corsa IS going to be faster than he almighty CTR.
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No, I'm really not... the CTR will be faster than this so far non-existent GSi
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quote:
Originally posted by Ditch
quote:
Originally posted by RobboSRi
quote:
Originally posted by Ditch
It would rape a civic if played with


No it wouldnt, belioeve me... it really wouldnt

And Cupra-R's (Leon that is) have 212bhp so its not gonna gt anywhere near that either - and how can you put a 106 GTi ( an a cooper s 4 that matter) in the same bracket as a CTR/Cupra R????? The CUpra R has 92bhp more than a GTi!!

[Edited on 19-08-2003 by RobboSRi]



I was merely pulling cars out of the air that would appeal to someone buying a fast car, i know the figures for them gimp boy.


Why wouldnt it?

A turbo is ALOT more tuneable than a screamin v-tec is it not?
and its Torque figures are ALOT more impressive are they not?
Is the corsa a smaller, more lightweight car?

=Civic gets wanked on


Depends on the turbo really
What torque figures wud that be then? There isnt even a designated engine 4 it yet
Yes the corsa is samller/lighter

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quote:
Originally posted by Ditch
quote:
Originally posted by vibrio
I'd piss all over a civic





not according to ButholeSRI who seems to think the CTR will beat everything


Not at all, but it will beat all the ones mentioned so far (excl the Cupra - dead match probly)

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