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TheCam

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15th Nov 07 at 15:25

I'm trying to sell my motorbike just now to fund a new car. wrong time of the year to be selling but hopefully I'll get it shifted.

thinking about a 1.6 16v corsa B.

I have had a 2.0 16v and 2.0 8v corsa and I think I wanna tune a 1.6 next.
I was thinking along the lines of,
throttle bodies
cams
verniers
4-2-1 manifold
full exhaust system.

surely that would take me to C20XE power??
what about torque?

also I was thinking about looking into getting a remap with a raised rev limiter, what other parts would i need to uprate to handle this??

what sortof power are we talking?

Cheers for any info
Graeme

[Edited on 15-11-2007 by TheCam]

lil_g

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15th Nov 07 at 15:32

I think the best person to talk to about this topic would be Dave A

Dean_W

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15th Nov 07 at 15:35

If you had throttle bodies, you couldn't have a re-map as it would need to be run on standalone management and mapped properly.

TheCam

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15th Nov 07 at 15:40

quote:
Originally posted by Dean_W
If you had throttle bodies, you couldn't have a re-map as it would need to be run on standalone management and mapped properly.

what do u mean?
dont u get standalone management with the trottle bodies? I thought u did, cant that management be mapped to raise the limiter?
never dealt with throttle bodies before

Dean_W

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15th Nov 07 at 15:43

Throttle bodies are just the bodies.
Then you need inlet and all the other stuff including management.

Dave A does them as a complete kit. Includes everything you need.

It's not just a case of bolting them on, they need to be set up properly.

TheCam

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15th Nov 07 at 15:49

quote:
Originally posted by Dean_W
Throttle bodies are just the bodies.
Then you need inlet and all the other stuff including management.

Dave A does them as a complete kit. Includes everything you need.

It's not just a case of bolting them on, they need to be set up properly.

i know that lol.
sorry my fault here, when i said throttle bodies i did mean the full kit.
will i be able to get it mapped then?

Graeme

Dean_W

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15th Nov 07 at 15:58

Cam, What do you mean by will you be able to get it mapped?

Fonz

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15th Nov 07 at 15:59

not sure if this helps?

tuning a 1.6

TheCam

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15th Nov 07 at 16:01

right, i want to know if i can get the rev limiter raised in conjunction with all the above mods? Can I raise the limiter on the management that I buy for the bodies? am i making sense lol

If so, what internal parts will have to be uprated to cope with the extra stress?

Dave A

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15th Nov 07 at 16:03

everything you need to know is in my project thread, link in my sig

TheCam

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15th Nov 07 at 16:14

quote:
Originally posted by Fonz
not sure if this helps?

tuning a 1.6

cheers mate,
any more info welcome people.

Robin

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15th Nov 07 at 16:14

quote:
Originally posted by TheCam
right, i want to know if i can get the rev limiter raised in conjunction with all the above mods? Can I raise the limiter on the management that I buy for the bodies? am i making sense lol

If so, what internal parts will have to be uprated to cope with the extra stress?

yes, and ARP rod bolts + SBD cambelt rollers will give you a bottom end good for about 8000rpm.

RobHayes ran his STANDARD bottom end to 7800rpm with no trouble.

TheCam

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15th Nov 07 at 16:17

quote:
Originally posted by Robin

quote:
Originally posted by TheCam
right, i want to know if i can get the rev limiter raised in conjunction with all the above mods? Can I raise the limiter on the management that I buy for the bodies? am i making sense lol

If so, what internal parts will have to be uprated to cope with the extra stress?

yes, and ARP rod bolts + SBD cambelt rollers will give you a bottom end good for about 8000rpm.

RobHayes ran his STANDARD bottom end to 7800rpm with no trouble.

thanks Robin, thats what i needed to know,

Robin

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15th Nov 07 at 16:20

There's a guide on the SBD site, and there was one on mine and Broster's, but we haven't paid the bill for the hosting

http://sbdev.co.uk/History_files/History_InstantExpert.htm

That's worth a read.

Vaux Lad

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15th Nov 07 at 19:42

All this talk of NA, turbo the f**ker

Dean_W

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15th Nov 07 at 19:52

quote:
Originally posted by Vaux Lad
All this talk of NA, turbo the f**ker

Too dear to do properly. You'd get more reliable power by keeping it n/a...imo

TheCam

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15th Nov 07 at 22:40

quote:
Originally posted by Vaux Lad
All this talk of NA, turbo the f**ker

I would like a turbo'd motor, I would also love to have a throttlebodied car too lol.

i think my next car may be a C20LET corsa when insurance says yes lol

Vaux Lad

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16th Nov 07 at 00:14

quote:
Originally posted by Dean_W

quote:
Originally posted by Vaux Lad
All this talk of NA, turbo the f**ker

Too dear to do properly. You'd get more reliable power by keeping it n/a...imo

Not really.

Tb's
Cams/Verniers

That wont leave much change out of 2 grand straight away, if buying new

For a track car, fair enough id prefer NA.
But for road, i'd go turbo tbh.

And how would a tb'd motor be more reliable? Higher revs=higher stresses unless you go spending hundreds on forged rods etc.

Keeping a turbo'd lump at a sensible boost level, it'll be fine. And you can keep a standard rev limit.
Plus you get the all important torque increase that small block engines always lack(well most of them anyway)

And i guarantee, more power than Na.

[Edited on 16-11-2007 by Vaux Lad]

Dean_W

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16th Nov 07 at 00:18

ok ok, but have you looked at the costs!

Decent parts cost a fortune, then theres the fitting (if you can't DIY) then theres the mapping.

I priced it up for about a week, was like 3K+

Vaux Lad

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16th Nov 07 at 00:24

Aye, it costs, but you get more for your money.

As with a lot of things you can do it MUCH more cheaply. Skim the std pistons to reduce CR etc, use Megasquirt management, cheap 2nd turbo etc etc.

Id guess that you could have it running for £1500

[Edited on 16-11-2007 by Vaux Lad]

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16th Nov 07 at 00:59

quote:
Originally posted by Vaux Lad
Aye, it costs, but you get more for your money.

As with a lot of things you can do it MUCH more cheaply. Skim the std pistons to reduce CR etc, use Megasquirt management, cheap 2nd turbo etc etc.

Id guess that you could have it running for £1500

[Edited on 16-11-2007 by Vaux Lad]

Reducing the crown width, unleashing a non-hardened surface, use a cheap form of management that appeals to the home bodger (something this guy has said he isn't) using a 2nd hand turbo which could be an utter lemon and isn't suited to the purpose (you forget a custom manifold etc)

To be honest, what he has listed initially if paying someone else to do would be in the region of £3k anyway IMO.

Steve X16XE

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16th Nov 07 at 01:21

Where did this come from? It is on the http://sbdev.co.uk/History_files/History_InstantExpert.htm Link.

Robin

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16th Nov 07 at 01:45

The magazine?

Track and Race Car.

TheCam

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16th Nov 07 at 13:01

quote:
Originally posted by TheCam
1.6 16v corsa B.

I was thinking along the lines of,
throttle bodies
cams
verniers
4-2-1 manifold
full exhaust system.

what sortof power are we realistically talking here?
what about torque?

Dave A

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16th Nov 07 at 13:02

on that spec around 165 depending on cams.

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