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Author A few 2.0 16v queries...
Miner
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   20th May 03 at 13:46   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Hmm, interesting! This is certainly hotting up nicely, u sould start a poll on wether PVD should put up or shut up! My mate did his 2.0 conv contrary to the advice offered by pvd who were more interested in selling him shit he didnt need than helping him perform the conversion. He's also done his own disk rear axle too, so it's not always the companies who know best, their game is ultimately to shift units & make money!

[Edited on 20-05-2003 by Miner]
Scott M
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quote:
Originally posted by Pete
quote:
Originally posted by Scott M
It'll be as close to a fair test as you are gonna get it.

Surely it would just be interesting to see how the power figures compare?


Bollocks, the only fair test is the same engine with both parts.


There's no need to get stroppy with me Pete, all I was saying is that surely there wont be THAT much difference between the two engines.

Surely as owner of PVD you would be interested to see which would comeout trumps, there's nothing to stop you then selling the powercap or inlet pipe. Either way you win and you have both options to cater for all customers as opposed to just those that have the money to afford the powercap.

[Edited on 20-05-2003 by Scott M]
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20th May 03 at 14:41   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by Miner
Hmm, interesting! This is certainly hotting up nicely, u sould start a poll on wether PVD should put up or shut up! My mate did his 2.0 conv contrary to the advice offered by pvd who were more interested in selling him shit he didnt need than helping him perform the conversion. He's also done his own disk rear axle too, so it's not always the companies who know best, their game is ultimately to shift units & make money!

[Edited on 20-05-2003 by Miner]


i can see PVD are trying to sell stuff as that what they are there for, and the kit are not made by PVD, so really its nothing to do with PVD.
as really we could go down the road of i can fit a 2lt 16v with PVD parts for this much money and take me X amount of time, and then me coming along and say i can do it for less and alot quicker. As the PVD kit (M-Tech) make the job alot harder and takes alot longer.....
this is about making the job easyer and whats best to buy, for the customer
Andy
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20th May 03 at 16:44   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by BeArDy
powercap
7000 - 164hp
6000 - 129lb/ft

standard
6000 - 154bhp
5000 - 148lb/ft



Standard will be much, much quicker in real world driving conditions then...
Miner
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   20th May 03 at 17:56   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

My point is that they were trying to sell him parts for the conversion he knew he didn't need and said he wouldn't be able to do it w/o them! Obviously there out to make money as the song goes "Love don't pay the rent!" I agree with Scott though, it makes it look like they're afraid their product is gonna come out looking bad but there is a potential to market both. Looking at the figures there will prob be more power with the cap than the pipe as it's a standard part, but some people will prefer more top end. Like you said about the conversion, each to their own!
BeArDy
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21st May 03 at 15:56   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

pete where are u........
Daimo B
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And Mr PVD Ponce still thinks he's not arrogent

Dont forget, +2bhp motr than standard and loss in torque PLUS u need to cut your bulkhead to fit it

Im happy enuff with my Ecotec pipe nad plate no matter what the cost. Bolts are flush in the plate and the car pulls like a slag.
Dave Hay
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21st May 03 at 17:31   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

i dont get vexxy ecotec inlet pipe...

wot difference does it make? only thing i can think of is less turns than standard pipe for the power cap?? (assuming you all run powercaps)

anyone running unichips on there xe??

and what driveshafts u all got/engine mouts too?

pm me if ya dont wanna reply in ere.
Scott M
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22nd May 03 at 00:51   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Lee's mounts
PVD Shafts and hubs.

My total conversion cost = £700 give or take a few quid.
Adam_B
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22nd May 03 at 10:52   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Think theres a rolling road at PV2003......

[Edited on 22-05-2003 by Adam_B]
lee mitchell
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my car wont be there thou
BeArDy
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and i would be suprised if u could even get 1 go never mind 2
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22nd May 03 at 13:28   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by Scott M
Lee's mounts
PVD Shafts and hubs.

My total conversion cost = £700 give or take a few quid.



SFI plate topgear (01282414413 ask for larance) - 25
Sfi pipe vauxhall (part number 90411677) - 12.64
2 x corsa wheel Barings (must be vauxhall) - 40 each (80)

mine cost me about 130 all in all


[Edited on 22-05-2003 by BeArDy]
lee mitchell
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22nd May 03 at 16:30   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

fads just had his rolling roaded. 155bhp and 143lb ft torque.
J100RSA
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for once daimo has spoken some sence i fitted a 2.0 in my m8 corsa and used a pvd kit
1. it took 3 months to get it
2. was over priced
3. the hubs a poorly machined and one of his sheered after 1500miles so he made his own
4. the power cap was a right pain in the arse to fitbecause or all the cutting plus it toutches the bonnet slightly
but if u do want an mtech kit got to there web site and get 1 from there ther about £100 cheeper But pete says u cant do this as they wont sell u one but guess what peeps mtech were quite happy to sell me 1

[Edited on 22-05-2003 by J100RSA]
and-m
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quote:
Originally posted by BeArDy
quote:
Originally posted by Scott M
Lee's mounts
PVD Shafts and hubs.

My total conversion cost = £700 give or take a few quid.



SFI plate topgear (01282414413 ask for larance) - 25
Sfi pipe vauxhall (part number 90411677) - 12.64
2 x corsa wheel Barings (must be vauxhall) - 40 each (80)

mine cost me about 130 all in all


[Edited on 22-05-2003 by BeArDy]


What did you use for driveshafts?
and-m
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quote:
Originally posted by lee mitchell
fads just had his rolling roaded. 155bhp and 143lb ft torque.


any idea what intake he had?
fearless
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What did you use for driveshafts?


Modified shortened astra gte driveshafts !!! - extra groove machined into shaft for cv joint circlip to sit in !!!!!
and-m
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and they work ok? so u have to use modified hubs/astra cvs?
fearless
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quote:
Originally posted by and-m
and they work ok? so u have to use modified hubs/astra cvs?


Yep - no problems - slide cv joint past first groove in shaft onto the second one u have machined into shaft
Dave Hay
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22nd May 03 at 22:16   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

any answers for my questions
and-m
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Anyone?

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