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Tom26
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22nd Sep 12 at 14:45   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
Hi ive been having an issue with wandering steering so today checked all the bushes look ok as do the balljoints but when i shake the wheel side to side theres movement.Anyone no whats causes this....rack?Thanks
andy_mk3
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That movement will be from the steering column itself, very unlikely it's come lose so probably the bearings that have gone.
Tom26
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22nd Sep 12 at 18:55   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
I meen the wheel not the steering wheel
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What car?
monkeytwizzel
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I,m guessing that you have also checked wheel bearings,track rod ends and steering rack mounting rubbers?
Tom26
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andy_mk3
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Oh, silly me as said, chech the bearings and ball joints.
Tom26
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Ball joints all look fine the only movement i can see is side to side wateva that indicates.Any ideas
reecegsi
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Wheel bearing if ball joints are fine
Tom26
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Is there a way to properly check the bearings as dont want to change then still have the problem
bigron1988
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Do you have coilovers? If so the damper in springs has a little locking plate check that has not come lose. Or mayb. Top mounts lose?
Tom26
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Replaced top mounts 4k ago and no im not on coilovers
Johnjourno
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To check your wheel bearing, get a mate to press the footbrake, if the play stops, wheel bearing
Johnjourno
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To add, wheel bearing will have play top to bottom too, as a general all round play, you need two people to check for play, one to wrestle the wheel and one to see whats moving,

If it's side to side,
-track rod end
-steering rack
-bottom ball joint (but more present top to bottom)
-bottom arm bushes
-trailing arm (or whatever it's called)
-wheel bearing

It is very unlikely that top bushes will show massive play side to side, more likely top to bottom as you pull and psh the top edge of the wheel

Top to bottom play
-bottom ball joint
-lower arm bushes
-strut top bearing
-shock absorber bushes (internal of the shock shown as play in the shaft)
-wheel bearing

As a stupid one, if you have had the top mounts not too long ago, check the strut to hub bolts, very unlikely but might have worked loose, you never know
Tom26
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Cheers mate thats a great help the problem started rite after i hit some standing water hard at around 80 so just trying to think which would be effected by that
jay26
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24th Sep 12 at 21:25   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
Sounds stupid but your wheel bolts are still tight?

If they are I would say rack end/ track rod end

[Edited on 24-09-2012 by jay26]
Tom26
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Yeh wheels bolts are tight sounds stupid but when stationary theres around 1cm of play in the steering wheel side to side would that be a factor
Johnjourno
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Could be any of them, if you hit standing water your car is forced in many directions, if you can feel play in the steering wheel, is it free play and then start to steer or does it knock when you turn it further?
Tom26
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Its free play and the steering wheel rally light although wheels dont turn then it will start to steer
tobyc20xe
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check the two suspension bolts. mine had a mind of it's own turned out to be the top bolt was comeing undone!
Tom26
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Which bolt the top mount one visible from engine?
tobyc20xe
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quote:
Originally posted by Tom26
Which bolt the top mount one visible from engine?


well all four really to two in the engine bay for the top mount then take the wheel off there will be two bolts check them to

 
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