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quote: Originally posted by BeArDy 
Whats cutting the engine out? fuel or spark?   It has both 
IE when the engine stops has the fuel been cut or has it stop sparking? I dont know.. 
Start the engine keep key where it is, remove sparkplug and see if it will spark when cranking WITHOUT removing the key OR taking it back to stage 1  - - will try this. 
 
Will the engine fire right up once you take the key back out and start again? IE fire up without any problems? 
 
No it chokes abit (As if plugs are to wet) then starts up 
 
Any engine Faultcodes? 
   Not as yet
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getting somewhere now. 
IF you are 100% sure there is fuel and spark AT ALL TIMES so non of them are being cut to stop the engine from working. 
 
An Engine needs Air - Fuel - Spark. 
 
Pull out the plugs, look in the back of any haynes manuel there is a photo of a range of plugs from Lean to Rich. 
Have a look and tell me what you find. 
 
BUT you have the last 2 (Spark and Fuel) from the checks you have done, this means you have a problem on your air side. 
 
ICV? is this stuck open? have you tried clamping the pipe shut? 
Air Flow Meter have you test this? 
 
 
 
100% check as i need this infomation - Start the engine keep key where it is, remove sparkplug and see if it will spark  and fuel spraying out of the plug hole when cranking WITHOUT removing the key OR taking it back to stage 1
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quote: Originally posted by BeArDy 
getting somewhere now. 
IF you are 100% sure there is fuel and spark AT ALL TIMES so non of them are being cut to stop the engine from working. 
 
An Engine needs Air - Fuel - Spark. 
 
Pull out the plugs, look in the back of any haynes manuel there is a photo of a range of plugs from Lean to Rich. 
Have a look and tell me what you find. 
 
BUT you have the last 2 (Spark and Fuel) from the checks you have done, this means you have a problem on your air side. 
 
ICV? is this stuck open? have you tried clamping the pipe shut? = Have not tried this, not 100% on this 
Air Flow Meter have you test this? = How do I test this? 
 
 
 
100% check as i need this infomation - Start the engine keep key where it is, remove sparkplug and see if it will spark  and fuel spraying out of the plug hole when cranking WITHOUT removing the key OR taking it back to stage 1 
   
 
Cant try some of this tomorrow, but don't get home until gone 7, and pitch black where the car is kept! 
 
 
thanks for help so far
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we have just put x14xe engine in ma mates corsa starts runs turned it off cause wining coming from timing side started it back up then died only stays started wen reved i no wat the problem is but finding the god dam hose is a nightmare and that the one for the icv to throttle body not connected up also on my xe corsa the throttlebody hose that goes to your icv check it for splits as mines kept blowing off and cutting out all fixed now so tbh a think your problem lies there
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Thanks will try above when next of work! 
 
 
Exhaust manifold its not connected atm (new one ordered) so lambda not plugged in! 
 
Also powercap 
Not bolted dowb fully as need trim bulkhead abit 
More 
 
Would this effect it?
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With no manifold there wont be any back pressure either? Maybe best to get all that little bits sorted first so that its 100% built
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Getting manifold connected is a garage job as needs sleeve welded to it  trouble is getting there lol
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FLOL
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Laugh all you like. I have the last laugh in the fact I'm English.
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not really a last laugh. its well known the english fled to scotland/wales so wouldnt get killed in the old times or bummed by the romans lol, but on a more serious note....may be worth just getting the ex manifold on and bodging a connecting piece for now?
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You're referring to a different generation of people.... 
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Don't try to look for other problems while you've got known problems. Get an ecotec pipe or something to connect the air inlet up, if the powercap that's on just now isn't even close to the TB that's going to cause problems as well. 
 
Why does the manifold need to be sleeved? So when you've tried starting it up it's not had an exhaust manifold on or the lambda plugged in? 
 
You need to get it ready to run before you try to run it. It's basic stuff. 
 
[Edited on 26-01-2011 by alan-g-w]
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quote: Originally posted by connollygt30 
FLOL 
  You still not bored yet? How's the engine sale going btw? 
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Manifold 
Needs be sleeved as flange only on cat
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So it needs a flange welded on? Or is it not long enough? 
 
That above didn't make sense.
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Sorry needs a flange. Cant have welded on as dobe know how much was cut off with old one
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Don't*
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So why not just temp fit the manifold but just don't join it up to the cat? So that you can have the lambda set up properly.
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quote: Originally posted by dragon2309 
quote: Originally posted by connollygt30 
FLOL 
  You still not bored yet? How's the engine sale going btw?  
   
 
You not bored of trying to do sucessfull redtop conversions? decided to keep it after realising the lack of good redtops out there as you are witnessing trying to get that dog running
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ConversionS? Just one going on ? Bored? Nope or would of stopped, simple answer really! 
 
  
Not like i rely on a corsa as part of my life LMAO
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