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brynster

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26th Jul 07 at 12:24

Hi guys im new to all this so please be gentle lol

I have a 1.0 2000 corsa and a 1.6 astra mk 3 and want to put the 1.6 in the corsa, is this an easy mod or will I need say a conversion kit?.
like I say new to all this so please be kind.

pow

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26th Jul 07 at 14:25

The loom is completely different, I know that... not sure bout mounting!

Planty02

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26th Jul 07 at 14:50

I would imagine that mounting is different (more cylinders, wider block)

Also need new clocks

matt_t586

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26th Jul 07 at 16:19

I think it is impossible to get anything in a 1.0 corsa!!

Greg_M

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26th Jul 07 at 16:39

quote:
Originally posted by matt_t586
I think it is impossible to get anything in a 1.0 corsa!!

dont talk rubbish.

The car loom is the same as the 1.2 (ECU in engine bay) so will need to be pulled through to the footwell to put any other engine in.

Will need the corsa mounts for the 1.6 and 1.6 corsa drive shafts. thats about it.

oh and as said will need 16v clocks

brynster

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26th Jul 07 at 18:36

nice 1 folks I apreciate your help,

at least this should put me on the right tracks
hope this link works, a pic of my corsa

Planty02

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26th Jul 07 at 18:58

Thats really nice mate, but deserves something more showy than a 1.6 IMO

Perhaps a XE or LET if its in budget?

shaunmods

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26th Jul 07 at 19:34

quote:
Originally posted by Planty02
Thats really nice mate, but deserves something more showy than a 1.6 IMO

Perhaps a XE or LET if its in budget?

Can't really see much point using and xe or let, it's not like its ever going to be driven fast being a show car and all. 1.6 will do nicely imo, good luck with it mate

pow

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26th Jul 07 at 21:20

quote:
Originally posted by Greg_M

quote:
Originally posted by matt_t586
I think it is impossible to get anything in a 1.0 corsa!!

dont talk rubbish.

The car loom is the same as the 1.2 (ECU in engine bay) so will need to be pulled through to the footwell to put any other engine in.

Will need the corsa mounts for the 1.6 and 1.6 corsa drive shafts. thats about it.

oh and as said will need 16v clocks

The ECU is not in the engine bay? Isit

Greg_M

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27th Jul 07 at 10:13

quote:
Originally posted by pow

The ECU is not in the engine bay? Isit

it is on 12v and 1.2's. under the intake manifold

brynster

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27th Jul 07 at 10:23

would like to put a 2ltr red top in but like shaunmods says
the car isnt built to do high speeds its more for show
i just want to keep up in convoy lol
so not sure which way 2 go as i already have the 1.6 astra for a donor car
your comments are really helping me though,
keep them comeing guys,
thanks brynster

deano87

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27th Jul 07 at 12:28

Depending what model 12v it is, it might have the appropriate clocks. Mines a GLS and they go up to 130mph iirc - if that's what people mean?

Richie

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27th Jul 07 at 14:33

Basically there are quite a few things to take into consideration:

The ECU on the 1.0 12v engine is mounted on the side of the engine meaning that the only loom that goes into the car is the 8/9 wire car loom.

This means that you have to get the full engine loom and car loom that goes to the ECU which will need to be mounted into the drivers kickpanel.

The clocks problem is another matter...... most 1.0 12v engines come with electronically driven clocks. If you get a 1.6 gearbox with a mechanical driven speed sensor... then you will either need to purchase a transducer or bust apart the gearbox and change the pickup wheel to the electronic type magnetic pulse.

If you get a 1.6 gearbox with an electrical sender.... you can just swap them between boxes (always wise just incase the other clocks went to 140mph.... all 1.0 12v's only go to 130 iirc).

The other two problems that people hit is the wiring for the fuel pump circuit, cooling circuit and diagnostic connector. It can all be done but it does take some effort as I believe there is no definitive guide unless Beardy ect have made one.

Hope this helps your decision

Greg_M

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27th Jul 07 at 16:59

quote:
Originally posted by deano87
Depending what model 12v it is, it might have the appropriate clocks. Mines a GLS and they go up to 130mph iirc - if that's what people mean?

the speed works but the rev counter will be out
you need 4cylinder clocks for it to work correctly

Richie

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27th Jul 07 at 17:01

quote:
Originally posted by Greg_M

quote:
Originally posted by deano87
Depending what model 12v it is, it might have the appropriate clocks. Mines a GLS and they go up to 130mph iirc - if that's what people mean?

the speed works but the rev counter will be out
you need 4cylinder clocks for it to work correctly

Most 1.0 12v's didnt come with rev counters

only top model ones with PAS ect did

Greg_M

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27th Jul 07 at 17:02

Good point richie,
fuel pump will need to wired across from the engine loom to pin 7 (i think) on the pinky coloured relay behind the glove box.

can check details if you need me to im just going from memory

[Edited on 27-07-2007 by Greg_M]

Greg_M

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27th Jul 07 at 17:03

quote:
Originally posted by Richie
Most 1.0 12v's didnt come with rev counters only top model ones with PAS ect did

most late models did from club upwards. well my club did and it was BASIC to say the least

brynster

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27th Jul 07 at 22:16

really appreciate all this help folks

definatly helping me out

Richie

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28th Jul 07 at 11:32

quote:
Originally posted by Greg_M

quote:
Originally posted by Richie
Most 1.0 12v's didnt come with rev counters only top model ones with PAS ect did

most late models did from club upwards. well my club did and it was BASIC to say the least

I stand corrected. Last one I had experience with was a V reg and it didnt have one.

Greg_M

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28th Jul 07 at 20:10

dunno then. maybe mine was a fluke

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