astravanman 
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can any one help with this when u pump them fats they r ok but then they go 
 
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craigpcg 
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thats what u call brake fade m8 
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ed 
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Hey? Better description would be good. But it sounds like there is no fluid or air bubbles, cos fade happens when they get hot?
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1600power 
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ur master cylinder sounds like one of its seals might have failed aswell!
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astravanman 
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well i have bleed all the brakes and they r fine and there is loads off fluid there is no leaks round the cylinder lol but as soon as u get in the car they r fine and like 1 min down the road and there is no brakes lol i nearly killed my self 3 times lol
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Eastbounre Corsa Bloke 
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so the brakes disapear?  u loose them?they vanish fomr the corsa? no wonder  u cant brake if ther enot there lol  
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astravanman 
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god how funny r u mate i take it u know shit bouts carzs then bud prob dont even drive
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Eastbounre Corsa Bloke 
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lol chill man im only messing  u sure all the house r on tight n that?
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big eck 
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When you say no brakes does your pedal go straight to the carpet???
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Adam-D 
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youve just fitted a xe havent you? 
could be the vacumm pipe isnt sealing right? 
 
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Kris TD 
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you got the calipers on the right side? bleed nipple at the top?
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starkie 
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someone else done that before too then lol 
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corsafreak 
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quote: Originally posted by astravanman 
can any one help with this when u pump them fats they r ok but then they go 
   
 
were you they guy saying gsi brakes are ok for braking an xe? if you aren't running 2.0 16v brakes then it's time for an upgrade. 
sounds like brake fade, does it happen after some heavy braking.
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TOMAS 
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No im sure he means that the pedal is going soft which isnt brake fade. It will be one of two things... 
 
1. Servo vaucume is not sealed properly 
 
2. More chance the master cylinder seals have had it, did it just start happening or was it after you bled the brakes as you have to be very carefull when bleeding that you dont knacker them...
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astravanman 
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write the brakes have been fine as i have had the car on the road for 3 weeks now just started happened have been brakeing herd 2 lol the vacum is ok on the brakes no leaks or shit but how do u tell if the seals have gone would there be fluid all round the cyclinder
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1600power 
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no the seals help to stem the flow of fluid in and out of the master cylinder so that pressure builds up inside it when the pedel is pressed thus causing the brakes to activate. 
 
However if the seals inside have perished then so have their powers of producing a pressurised environment and therefore the sudden loss of ur brakes. 
 
when u fitted the engine was the master cylinder devoid of brake fluid??? if it was then the seals will have almost certainly dried out which is ultra ultra bad for mastercylinders as ur never supposed to leave them without brakefluid in them!
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astravanman 
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no it had fluid in them but the brakes come back when u pump the pedal then they go again 
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Adam-D 
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ok check the calipers are the right way up. 
then it could be fade as they arent up to the job mebbe get 2ltr ate brakes 
or buy a brand new master cylinder there not that expensive. 
 
this is your brakes your talking about and skimping on cost will only get you killed 
 
also check if your loosing fliud anywhere etc
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ainsley_brader 
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sounds like air in the system or a leak rather than the cylinder going to me. 
 
If it was OK up until it was stood for 3 weeks then it went like this i would say personally a leak? 
 
Have you checked the rear wheel cylinders inside the rear drums? 
 
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quote: Originally posted by astravanman 
no it had fluid in them but the brakes come back when u pump the pedal then they go again 
 
   
Mine did that once, after the mechanic fitted a new rear sub-frame to my car... So the brakes must have been bled e.t.c... I just pumped them up again and it hasn't happened since.
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astravanman 
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it has ate callipers and turbo grooved disks and green stuff pads mate i only get the best stu ff for my car lol so it could be the maser cyclineder
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Siberia 
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sounds like air in the system its all it could be if the pressure comes back when u pump the brakes.
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astravanman 
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i have bleads the systme tho mate
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best bet is to take it into a garage really, unless u want to kill urself trying to fix the problem...
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Adam 
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quote: Originally posted by astravanman 
green stuff pads .......... i only get the best stu ff for my
   
 
 
   
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