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BeArDy
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16th Mar 04 at 18:10   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

what more would i need other than the below??
Pipeing
already got a Charge Cooler
Oil Feel
5th injector





How have/would people go about the below??
Taking a Oil feed from the engine
Piping in the Charge Cooler

anything else people can think of other than a bloody good rolling road set up?

[Edited on 16-03-2004 by BeArDy]
Kris TD
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16th Mar 04 at 18:14   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

may have to use a sandwich block to get an oil feed. meens you can then run a front mounted oil cooler too.
BeArDy
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16th Mar 04 at 18:16   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

will that give a oil feed? i was just thinking the sandwich block was to cool the oil getting in and out of the filter?

how would u take a feel from it?
Kris TD
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16th Mar 04 at 18:24   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

hmm thinking about it maybe not, yes it is used o you can run a different il cooler. think the oil feed on my td comes from the block.
you will probably also need some kind of dumpvalve, an amal valve actuator etc.. wat about cams? turbos tend to run different cams, fuel pump too. mine has 2 settings, one for normal fuel adjustment and one which you can set too supply extra fuel whilist on boost. perhaps you may need one from an let etc...
Kerry
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16th Mar 04 at 18:26   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

i have also been told u will need an after market ecu for the correct fueling/timing and will prolly cost about 1k to set up

i looked into it already
mike16v
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quote:
Originally posted by Kerry
i have also been told u will need an after market ecu for the correct fueling/timing and will prolly cost about 1k to set up



not a problem when ure a drug dealer
BeArDy
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16th Mar 04 at 18:57   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

5th injector cheaper then ECU

If it pays for the car who cares
James R
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16th Mar 04 at 20:20   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

You'll need oil supply (off the pump) and return (in to the sump)
After market ecu if you intend to run more than about 6psi (e.g emerald 600+235mapping)
You need to lower the compression ratio, thick head gasket or if you intend to run high power then forged Pistons (700-800, oh and rods 1000)
Then you need to mod the block to ensure pistons 5&6 don't melt due to poor cooling.
Bigger injectors, and re-profiled cams for a turbo app.
Oh and a oil cooler too.

[Edited on 16-03-2004 by j1400]
James R
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16th Mar 04 at 20:23   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Out of interested did you source that manifodl and turbo from a Saab??
BeArDy
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quote:
Originally posted by j1400
Out of interested did you source that manifodl and turbo from a Saab??

kind off
it was up as a Vauxhall Turbo for a V6
but on ringing garrett then said its a SAAB
James R
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17th Mar 04 at 00:25   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Thats cause Vx don't do a turbo V6, it's a Saab v6 turbo based on the VX lump you know
miles
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17th Mar 04 at 08:24   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Surely you could take the oil feed from a cooler sandwich plate, then you have a feed and a return, just run an oil cooler inline with it.
miles
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It wouldn't be a 5th injector either would it, it would be a 7th, and wouldn't you need an 8th as well?

Charge cooler would go between the inlet and turbo, not sure about water pumps and things though.

Stop me if Im wrong, but wouldn't you need twin turbos if your using an exhaust manifold like that?
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quote:
Originally posted by miles
but wouldn't you need twin turbos if your using an exhaust manifold like that?


dont give him any more ideas
Kerry
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quote:
Originally posted by miles
It wouldn't be a 5th injector either would it, it would be a 7th, and wouldn't you need an 8th as well?

Stop me if Im wrong, but wouldn't you need twin turbos if your using an exhaust manifold like that?


i was thinkin exactely the same as u but bein female i didnt like to say anything
James R
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17th Mar 04 at 10:28   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Saab set up is a single turbo on one side. Beardy wouldn't i be easier to source the whole Saab engine loom ecu etc.... as it's design to run like that already?? Probably the complete and cheapest option. Just a thought.
Kerry
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17th Mar 04 at 10:31   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

i think i would like to source a lotus carlton engine
miles
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17th Mar 04 at 10:48   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

So only 3 cylinders drive the turbo?
James R
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17th Mar 04 at 16:09   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

yeah
miles
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Doesn't that upset the balance of the engine? Is that how all single turbo V6's work? I thought the turbo would be further down the exhaust system, once the 2 heads exhausts had merged.

 
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