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Poll: SUPER 1.6 OR 2.0
MODIFIED 1.6 SPORT 20 (42.55%)
2.0 CONVERSION 27 (57.45%)


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Cybermonkey
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10th Oct 03 at 12:11   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by 1.6 Sport BadBoy
keep the car light weight, add bhp, bingo! fast as fook car. Now what u guys are forgetting is that bhp isnt everything! you put a mark2 1.6 escort with throttle bodies up against a 2.0litre, modd'd also, i know which will kik the shit out of which

you want big bhp, buy a jap car, you want nible, fast, light handling, mod ya 1.6 - remember, you aint gonna use ya speed too much on motorways, where big bhp comes into effect; gear your 1.6 up for sprinting like a mark2 escort and your sorted. garenteed to f**k a few people off at the lights in they're merc's and BM's.

its all about personal preferance. Me - i'd stay with the 1.6 but, i suppose it is a cheaper and easier option to just drop in an old 60,000 - 90,000 odd mile 2.0litre engine in there.


Couldnt have said it better myself
miles
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10th Oct 03 at 13:06   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Stock c20xe makes 142lb/ft, mine makes 130lb/ft.
Daimo B
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10th Oct 03 at 13:16   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

I thought it was 145lb ft? Or is that just the 20XE lumps?
miles
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10th Oct 03 at 13:40   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Dunno.
Adam_B
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10th Oct 03 at 21:37   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by miles
Stock c20xe makes 142lb/ft, mine makes 130lb/ft.

how does it make less than standard, u broke it?
John_C
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10th Oct 03 at 23:55   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by FLYING CORSA
if i am going to mod my 1.6 do i need to start thinking about replacing my piston rings etc


piston rings will b the least of ur problems
BabyBlade
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11th Oct 03 at 08:02   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by Adam_B
I spent a bout 2k on mine for the engine conv. As well as the 2.0 16v sourced and fitted i got coilovers, rear discs and GTE brakes up front. A stock 2.0 will still produce more torque that a 160 bhp 1.6 i think


u only spent two k on all that? (except the suspension)? how much was the rear disc conversion?
miles
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11th Oct 03 at 10:39   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

It makes less than a standard c20xe, mine is a c16xe.....
FLYING CORSA
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11th Oct 03 at 11:19   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by John_C
quote:
Originally posted by FLYING CORSA
if i am going to mod my 1.6 do i need to start thinking about replacing my piston rings etc


piston rings will b the least of ur problems


what do i need to be thinking about replacing then.......e.g. what part of the 1.6 engine tends to feck up first when you begin to increase the bhp
FLYING CORSA
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14th Oct 03 at 09:10   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

when you increase the bhp in a 1.6 engine what tends to be the first thing to go BANG!
miles
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14th Oct 03 at 12:00   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

You'd want some ARP rod bolts straight away, id go with the sbd steel rollers for safety. Thats the basics, what else depends on how far you want to take it, how safe you want to be, how much you have to spend and what spec you'll be running.
Daimo B
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DOnt forget the valve springs. Only good up to about 7500rpm. Not expensive either.
kerzo
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14th Oct 03 at 12:38   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

go for the 2.0 imo....would probably cost the same as what you are thinking plus you get a much faster unit with more torque. you could also sell your 1.6 for about £300 - 400
miles
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14th Oct 03 at 12:42   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

I'm using standard valve springs and I take them to 8,000rpm without problems.

I've been told that they are fine for this use.

You can get an uprated set for about £100.....
Daimo B
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Really? Your clarifying lots of facts for me recently!! Always been under teh impression there only good to 7500.
miles
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14th Oct 03 at 15:00   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Velos and RRE who did my mapping both advised the standard ones were fine for the job. If you fit wild cams then you will need to change them.
Tom
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14th Oct 03 at 15:36   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Get a 2.0 with coilovers, unless you're a rally driver the weight at the front aint gonna make that much difference
leecorsa18
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15th Oct 03 at 07:23   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

hw much would it cost to get a 1.6 sport engine fitted with all them mods on it roughly?????
FLYING CORSA
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18th Oct 03 at 17:57   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

excuse my ingorance but what are ARP rod bolts and SBD steel rollers..bit new to this stuff

.......my 1.6 engine has done 28k and has never let me down and runs very sweet with not ticks or rattles, oh and sorry its on a V plate as well how much you recon i will get for it?
cheers folks
leecorsa18
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if ur selling ur engine i mite be interested
FLYING CORSA
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19th Oct 03 at 14:51   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

well if i get a 2.0 conversion i will be mate and ill let you know
miles
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20th Oct 03 at 08:33   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

ARP are a company that make high strength rod bolts. They hold the rods onto the crank, having them snap would pretty much screw the whole engine. If you up the rev limit you want to change the standard ones really.

The 1.4/1.6 16v engines are prone to having weak plastic cam belt rollers, you can get proper pressed metal bearing rollers that are bomb proof from SBD.
FLYING CORSA
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27th Oct 03 at 12:46   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

how much ou looking at for a set of those and how easy are they to fit
Patrick
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27th Oct 03 at 12:49   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by Daimo B
Dbilas stuff is ok.




Someone get a camera.
miles
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27th Oct 03 at 12:50   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

ARP bolts = about £75

SBD cam pully kit = about £105.

Fitting of both items is direct replacement for the standard parts.

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