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Andy Morley
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28th Jul 03 at 21:46   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

C20XE with;

Piper 270 cams
Lifters
Boost valve
BTB manifold
Decat
Power cap
Enlarged trottle body
Magnecor 8.5 leads
Full reworked head
Chip with 8000 limiter
CDA BMC air box
Vernier pullies

Just tryin to picture a rough power for all this.

Andy
Joff
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170bhp
Andy Morley
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surely ya would get more power than 170
Joff
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You asked.

Always pays to be conservative.
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not really 170 seems about right and with raising the rev limit wont u consider uprating the rods? Woulding really consider raising it above 7500 really

[Edited on 28-07-2003 by fadscorsa]
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quote:
Originally posted by Andy Morley
C20XE with;

Piper 270 cams
Lifters
Boost valve
BTB manifold
Decat
Power cap
Enlarged trottle body
Magnecor 8.5 leads
Full reworked head
Chip with 8000 limiter
CDA BMC air box
Vernier pullies

Just tryin to picture a rough power for all this.

Andy



if you have splitfire plugs they will add 10hp



p.s I doubt you;ll need the FSE valve if your mapped with a unichip. also the BMC is restrictive. I would probably suggest 175hp
Andy Morley
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quote:
Originally posted by fadscorsa
not really 170 seems about right and with raising the rev limit wont u consider uprating the rods? Woulding really consider raising it above 7500 really

[Edited on 28-07-2003 by fadscorsa]


if ya on about rod bolts, yeah but i didnt include em
Joff
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quote:
Originally posted by Andy Morley
quote:
Originally posted by fadscorsa
not really 170 seems about right and with raising the rev limit wont u consider uprating the rods? Woulding really consider raising it above 7500 really

[Edited on 28-07-2003 by fadscorsa]


if ya on about rod bolts, yeah but i didnt include em


So you include lifters but not rod bolts?
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you;d probably be cheaper fitting TB's
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quote:
Originally posted by vibrio
if you have splitfire plugs they will add 10hp



gold paladium plugs

also ive been told viper stripes will add 40bhp
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quote:
Originally posted by vibrio
you;d probably be cheaper fitting TB's


been lookin at SBD but beardy told me i'd be better off with Webber and Webber Alpher management
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Then you should have listed the stripes in your list too.
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well that is already mapped etc
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Weber.

Spend time on MIG looking at what TB setups people are using.
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This is the whole list of new stuff i'm thinkin about for conversion: -

hose kit
cam belt
cam seals
tensioner
roller
water pump
oil pump
sump gaskets
dip stick gasket
breather pipe
gold paladium plugs
rod bolts
rocker cover gasket
black diamond clutch
rear main seal
oil pump gasket
oil pump seal
Piper 270 cams
Lifters
Boost valve
BTB manifold
Decat
Power cap
Enlarged trottle body
Magnecor 8.5 leads
Full reworked head
Chip with 8000 limiter
CDA BMC air box
Vernier pullies
servo pipe
gear linkage
fuel pump

thats it i think apart from brakes, suspention etc
Andy Morley
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quote:
Originally posted by Joff
Weber.

Spend time on MIG looking at what TB setups people are using.


well i was told sbd dont have cold start
dabilas are just shite
not heard much about webber
vibrio
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quote:
Originally posted by Andy Morley
This is the whole list of new stuff i'm thinkin about for conversion: -

hose kit
cam belt
cam seals
tensioner
roller
water pump
oil pump
sump gaskets
dip stick gasket
breather pipe
gold paladium plugs
rod bolts
rocker cover gasket
black diamond clutch
rear main seal
oil pump gasket
oil pump seal
Piper 270 cams
Lifters
Boost valve
BTB manifold
Decat
Power cap
Enlarged trottle body
Magnecor 8.5 leads
Full reworked head
Chip with 8000 limiter
CDA BMC air box
Vernier pullies
servo pipe
gear linkage
fuel pump

thats it i think apart from brakes, suspention etc





what about the block


also why a crap black diamond clutch
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I believe some SBD kits do have cold start, depending on application.

dBilas are ok for some, others prefer the typical TB setup.

Weber Alpha as used on John Shield's Nova in the Clarkson vs Henderson video.
Andy Morley
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gunna take a look round mig now
BeArDy
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best man to ask the Questions is eather
Stu - webber
Andy - SBD
fearless - had a few differnt types and carbs

u2u them all tell them your spec, and what u use the car for ie everyday us etc
and see how they comment
Andy Morley
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Andy
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quote:
Originally posted by Andy Morley
quote:
Originally posted by Joff
Weber.

Spend time on MIG looking at what TB setups people are using.


well i was told sbd dont have cold start
dabilas are just shite
not heard much about webber



Webber-Alpha TBs aren't really that rated as far as I know. I was advised to steer clear. SBD's TB's taper TBs are very well matched for that engine, and would be my first choice. As for ECU, MBE (as supplied by SBD) is well thought of, but there others such as GEMS (what I use) and Motronic (a bit dearer, but very fast processors and very responsive). The important thing is that whatever ECU you buy, you get someone who REALLY knows the system to do your mapping. Hope this helps.
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yes don;t get regal to do it

 
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