corsasport.co.uk
 

Corsa Sport » Message Board » General Chat » Driver decapitated after cruise control fault


New Topic

New Poll
  <<  1    2  >> Subscribe | Add to Favourites

You are not logged in and may not post or reply to messages. Please log in or create a new account or mail us about fixing an existing one - register@corsasport.co.uk

There are also many more features available when you are logged in such as private messages, buddy list, location services, post search and more.


Author Driver decapitated after cruise control fault
Robin
Premium Member

Avatar

Registered: 7th Jan 04
Location: Northants Drives: Clio 182 Cup
User status: Offline
24th Nov 16 at 21:49   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/horrifying-999-call-reveals-drivers-9328659

I have some issues with this story;

Presumably it was a DSG car, as he says 'it's not stopping at neutral', an odd thing to say if it had a manual gearbox. Either way, neutral is something you select with the lever.

Secondly, pressing the stop start button would do nothing other than turn on stop/start, again, I assume they mean the engine start button, pressing it does nothing, you'd have to hold it in to switch the engine off.

The investigation seems to have found no evidence of the faults described by the driver, yet the inquest found it was not suicide... What?

There is evidence that the throttle pedal was fully depressed and then released in the 5 seconds leading up to the crash, the throttle pedal would not move at all if cruise control was engaged, so that is evidence of driver input.

It's a bizarre story.
VegasPhil
Premium Member

Avatar

Registered: 16th Jan 05
Location: Fareham, Hants Drives: Octavia VRS
User status: Offline
24th Nov 16 at 22:18   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

It's not right and I've read the story a load of times.

It's a suicide. The car would tell them everything (Hence they know the accelerator was fully depressed).


Corsa 2.0 16v Vegas - Sold
3CorsaMeal
Member

Registered: 11th Apr 02
User status: Offline
24th Nov 16 at 22:57   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Vtec kicked in yo?
Andrew
Member

Registered: 5th May 04
Location: Skoda Octavia Estate, Ford Puma
User status: Offline
25th Nov 16 at 00:39   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by 3CorsaMeal
Vtec kicked in yo?


It was a Skoda
Ben J
Member

Registered: 31st Jan 05
Location: Cheshire
User status: Offline
25th Nov 16 at 08:08   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

100% sure it was a suicide, but a strange one at that.

As said, evidence shows that the throttle pedal was pressed to the floor, if he was "stuck" in cruise then the pedal wouldn't be pressed at all.



[Edited on 25-11-2016 by Ben J]
Steve
Premium Member

Avatar

Registered: 30th Mar 02
Location: Worcestershire Drives: Defender
User status: Offline
25th Nov 16 at 08:55   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Suicide but didnt want people to think it was, either that or was a complete retard - the type of person that buys winter tyres in UK
pow
Premium Member

Avatar

Registered: 11th Sep 06
User status: Offline
25th Nov 16 at 09:44   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

With a DSG box, the shifter is just an electronic control isn't it? so if you were going at 119mph, would it actually do anything?
Robin
Premium Member

Avatar

Registered: 7th Jan 04
Location: Northants Drives: Clio 182 Cup
User status: Offline
25th Nov 16 at 09:51   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Either way you can switch the ignition off so unless it was running in its own oil then the engine would turn off.

And the handbrake would work still, whether it was mechanical or electronic, if it was electronic they work on all four wheels and are absolutely savage &#128514;

It also says they detected steering input which to me suggests he was aiming for something rather than aiming away from something, from the way they describe it.
tom_simes
Show Staff
Organiser: South Wales
Premium Member


Avatar

Registered: 12th Jan 05
Location: Undy, Newport Drives: Skoda Octavia vRS estate
User status: Offline
25th Nov 16 at 10:18   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by Robin
It also says they detected steering input which to me suggests he was aiming for something rather than aiming away from something, from the way they describe it.

Agree with that, which they also said tallied with a dash cam from a truck in the other direction - the car swerved from lane 2 to the layby, where there was a parked truck - why would you aim for 44T of stationary vehicle if it wasn't suicide?
nathy_87
Member

Registered: 14th Aug 08
Location: West Mids. Drives: Škoda Fabia VRS 5J
User status: Offline
25th Nov 16 at 10:25   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Ridiculous really, trying to blame a fault on the car as they'll always find out stuff that will rule out what the driver said, yes I understand why he did that though. Does it say if it was auto or manual?
Steve
Premium Member

Avatar

Registered: 30th Mar 02
Location: Worcestershire Drives: Defender
User status: Offline
25th Nov 16 at 10:51   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Cant believe they are ruling out suicide
3CorsaMeal
Member

Registered: 11th Apr 02
User status: Offline
25th Nov 16 at 13:10   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

I would have gotten on the roof of car, and at the very last moment before impact simply step off the back of car. Same as riding a seat out of a skyscraper and jumping off it before hitting the ground.
3CorsaMeal
Member

Registered: 11th Apr 02
User status: Offline
25th Nov 16 at 13:11   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Just seen his name, was probably doing Ramavan.
GB123
Premium Member

Registered: 21st Nov 11
Location: Gillingham, Kent
User status: Offline
25th Nov 16 at 13:19   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Life insurance
GB123
Premium Member

Registered: 21st Nov 11
Location: Gillingham, Kent
User status: Offline
25th Nov 16 at 13:32   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by 3CorsaMeal
Just seen his name, was probably doing Ramavan.

Robin
Premium Member

Avatar

Registered: 7th Jan 04
Location: Northants Drives: Clio 182 Cup
User status: Offline
25th Nov 16 at 16:27   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by nathy_87
Ridiculous really, trying to blame a fault on the car as they'll always find out stuff that will rule out what the driver said, yes I understand why he did that though. Does it say if it was auto or manual?


Doesn't mention the gearbox specifically but the article says he said 'it won't stop at neutral' which is a really odd thing to say.

Also, assuming his brakes hadn't also failed in some strange coincidence, you could stop a car from 100+ mph regardless of if it was stuck in gear and with the throttle stuck open, surely?
Kyle T
Premium Member

Avatar

Registered: 11th Sep 04
Location: Selby, North Yorkshire
User status: Offline
25th Nov 16 at 18:18   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Carpet malfunction? Had a couple of dicey situations with cheap fitted carpets


Lotus Elise 111R

Impreza WRX STi
whitter45
Member

Registered: 15th Nov 02
Location: Norton
User status: Offline
26th Nov 16 at 09:11   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Suicide with the vision of the family taking skoda to court for man slaughter or similar charges and getting a large payout

Like the recent tesla story

[Edited on 26-11-2016 by whitter45]
chris_uk
Premium Member

Avatar

Registered: 8th Jul 03
User status: Offline
26th Nov 16 at 17:45   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

he was probably pushing the accel thinking it was the brake..
Ben G
Member

Registered: 12th Jan 07
Location: Essex
User status: Offline
26th Nov 16 at 18:28   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by chris_uk
he was probably pushing the accel thinking it was the brake..


Just no he wasn't a 95 year old granny.
tom_simes
Show Staff
Organiser: South Wales
Premium Member


Avatar

Registered: 12th Jan 05
Location: Undy, Newport Drives: Skoda Octavia vRS estate
User status: Offline
26th Nov 16 at 21:47   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by chris_uk
he was probably pushing the accel thinking it was the brake..

May have possibly been the case, but I find it hard to believe he didn't check this at some point over the 8 minutes.

It also still means a failure of the gear selection even if that did take place.
Ian
Site Administrator

Avatar

Registered: 28th Aug 99
Location: Liverpool
User status: Offline
26th Nov 16 at 23:34   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Suicide or he was already speeding and thought he'd seen Police so made the call to make up the story that the car was faulty prior to him being pulled.

That's happened once before, guy rang it in ooh my car's faulty, turned out to be an elaborate way to try and avoid the speeding fine. Fairly sure he crashed quite well as well.

This one is a complete load of shit, in any car I've ever been in you can stop with the brakes, the end. Cruise or no cruise, fault or no fault.

So either a simple lie and he crashed by accident or something deliberate, perhaps with the motive to implicate the car and not him for whatever bullshit reason.


Corsa B lap belts required
spencer88
Member

Registered: 6th Oct 08
Location: cornwall
User status: Offline
28th Nov 16 at 08:28   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by Steve
Cant believe they are ruling out suicide


Police haven't got the best record at the minute after the gay murders.

Finding a chap dead with a suicide note saying he killed himself because of guilt of murdering someone else, but don't blame the guy he was with last night, he wasn't anything to do with it....and the police just went, ok yeah sounds legit.
3CorsaMeal
Member

Registered: 11th Apr 02
User status: Offline
28th Nov 16 at 20:52   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

I reckon it was a witch in the local community did it
DaveyLC
Member

Registered: 8th Oct 08
Location: Berkshire
User status: Offline
29th Nov 16 at 11:31   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by Robin
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/horrifying-999-call-reveals-drivers-9328659

I have some issues with this story;

Presumably it was a DSG car, as he says 'it's not stopping at neutral', an odd thing to say if it had a manual gearbox. Either way, neutral is something you select with the lever.



Barely any modern auto cars have any mechanical interface between the driver and gearbox...

My ML shit its pants because the selector failed and there was no physical way to shift out of park, fucking night mare!

  <<  1    2  >>
New Topic

New Poll

Corsa Sport » Message Board » General Chat » Driver decapitated after cruise control fault 23 database queries in 0.0248721 seconds