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Steve
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Probably an age old question, but can anyone find anything to explain why we need to pay for a TV License?

I have read all the official sites that just bang on about it being "law to have a license if you wish to stream or watch or record live TV"

But nowhere does it say why - seems nonsensical.

Im sure I read somewhere before because its using the infrastructure that is maintained by the BBC, but thats not true if you're receiving your channels through Sky or similar.

Surely it would make more sense to simply have a BBC subscription that you can purchase if you wish to view their channels? Would have thought more people or official groups would have questioned this out of date approach which is basically just an enforced tax
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Just found this

http://www.tvlicensing.co.uk/check-if-you-need-one/topics/what-does-your-licence-fee-pay-for-top13

"Rolling out broadband to the UK"

"funding Welsh Language TV channel S4C"

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"covering costs of employing paedophiles now that the victims want compensation"

Because being touched by an old man is only ok if you get some money out of it.
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It's not a licence really, it's just dressed as that, it's really just another tax, which is why they are hell bent on making sure everyone pays it.
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It's owned by the government, that'll be a significant part of 'why?'
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What happens in other countries
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they have adverts to pay for it.


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I couldn't agree more, in this day and age why cant they scramble the channels and if you want them pay the licence and then they are unblocked. Or when you order sky TV etc, you can order without BBC
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I couldn't agree more, in this day and age why cant they scramble the channels and if you want them pay the licence and then they are unblocked. Or when you order sky TV etc, you can order without BBC


Agree, you should be able to just pay for Sky / Virgin and if you don't have a TV license scramble the BBC Channels.

License fee also pays for the BBC Radio channels though iirc so not as simply as it sounds.




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License fee also pays for the BBC Radio channels though iirc so not as simply as it sounds.

Licence fee funds a lot, lot more than just TV, radio and online content - economy seven clocking, yup BBC/Licence fee; helping Freeview/Freesat/Youview infrastructure, yup Licence fee; pushing new technology (HD channel and 4K trials etc), yup BBC/Licence fee.

Whilst arguably the TV and online content could be put behind a paywall, everything else would be extremely difficult. It's why it's probably just best to roll it into Tax - arguably it's another form of tax anyway.

I still think iPlayer should be placed behind some form of user/login system linked to your licence; although it's now illegal to view with out a licence, it isn't going to stop anyone leeching.

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they have adverts to pay for it.

American TV springs to mind; absolutely horrendous for that sort of thing.

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....but thats not true if you're receiving your channels through Sky or similar.

Someone needs to maintain the feeds to other broadcasters (ground stations etc)
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Feeds from just the BBC, or all channels?
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Feeds from just the BBC, or all channels?

Former. But i guess that's the same for every broadcaster.
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http://www.tvlicensing.co.uk/about/foi-legal-framework-AB16


Just had a quick look and can't see it mentioning needing licence for radio.
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http://www.tvlicensing.co.uk/about/foi-legal-framework-AB16


Just had a quick look and can't see it mentioning needing licence for radio.



you don't yet a TV licence fee money goes towards paying for the radio too

the term
"TV" is inaccurate the term (pays for radio and required for online streaming)
"licence" is false as it is a tax....
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quote:
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http://www.tvlicensing.co.uk/about/foi-legal-framework-AB16


Just had a quick look and can't see it mentioning needing licence for radio.



you don't yet a TV licence fee money goes towards paying for the radio too

the term
"TV" is inaccurate the term (pays for radio and required for online streaming)
"licence" is false as it is a tax....


Exactly its just a tax
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The licence fee is not a payment for BBC services (or any other television service), although licence fee revenue is used to fund the BBC.

source: http://www.tvlicensing.co.uk/about/foi-legal-framework-AB16
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The BBC can blow me.

I haven't had a TV license for a few years now. I only watched the last few series of the old Top Gear on demand rather than live, and now thats gone I never watch anything on the BBC.

Netflix, Prime, Youtube and other channel OD services are just fine for me and the wife.

[Edited on 02-09-2016 by Aaron]
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quote:
Originally posted by Aaron


Netflix, Prime, Youtube and other channel OD services are just fine for me and the wife.




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Do I need a TV Licence if I donít watch BBC programmes?
A TV Licence is a legal permission to install or use television equipment to receive (i.e. watch or record) TV programmes, as they are being shown on TV or live on an online TV service

http://www.tvlicensing.co.uk/about/foi-legal-framework-AB16
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No TV licence here. Don't have sky or any other form of receiving live TV. Don't even watch on demand. TV is only used for kodi and YouTube
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Originally posted by Aaron
The BBC can blow me.

Not sure why As long as you're not watching live TV or using iPlayer then there isn't a problem.

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....any other form of receiving live TV .... TV is only used for kodi ...

No TVCatchup, Turks, UKTV or other streaming/IPTV installed?

[Edited on 02-09-2016 by Dom]
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quote:
Originally posted by Fonz
quote:
Originally posted by Aaron


Netflix, Prime, Youtube and other channel OD services are just fine for me and the wife.




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Do I need a TV Licence if I donít watch BBC programmes?
A TV Licence is a legal permission to install or use television equipment to receive (i.e. watch or record) TV programmes, as they are being shown on TV or live on an online TV service

http://www.tvlicensing.co.uk/about/foi-legal-framework-AB16


Would you mind point out when and how i'm watching "live TV" please?

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quote:
Originally posted by Aaron
The BBC can blow me.

Not sure why As long as you're not watching live TV or using iPlayer then there isn't a problem.



I know.

The content on the BBC is a pile of shit since Top Gear of old went. Just my opinion of course. My point was that i don't use iPlayer to even watch any of their on demand (therefore not live) shows anymore.
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It's like £12 a month. Just pay it and watch tv? If you don't watch tv. Don't pay it. Simple really?
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I pay 30 quid a month already to sky to watch TV.

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