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Jimbothebarbarian
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Then would pass a law or legislation to ban anyone ever holding one again.

That is quite funny actually. Like a child taking the football home after they lose a game

The whole Sturgeon thing is similar to how the 'Leave' campaign is portrayed by the media. She is demonised by the London biased media. I imagine the Daily Mail comments section is in a furious rage at Scotland just now.

You could criticise SNP for being a little left but then Scotland is more traditionally left compared to rUK. Scottish politics is very different to Westminster, there are no typical Oxbridge degree / Eaton educated cunts. There are far fewer hidden agendas (see Jeremy Hunt) in comparison but this may be due to its infancy in comparison.


I must confess that you reply has given me a pleasant surprise as I must admit what you say is so painfully true. I personally can't stand her or the pillock before her. I always felt they're more interested in going down in Scottish folk law as the one who freed their downtrodden brethren from English oppression rather than any real political or financial reasons.

Fair play for a good point well made.
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In fairness though, I wish she wouldn't harp on about a referendum so much. If she merely said she is trying to protect Scotland's interests by talking with the EU commission then I feel she would be received better in England and indeed Scotland too.

My point above could equally apply to the Welsh Assembly or whatever they call it. I would also say Stormont too but they're all (ex)terrorists *dons flamesuit*
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Well well fucking well - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-36660133
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But that doesn't mean anything (say all the remain camp that were laughing when it dropped right after brexit)
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We haven't actually gone yet, remember.

It looks like the markets are stabilizing because nothing's actually changed.
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And a slow transition will mean a stable market throughout
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The markets problably know we won't leave. A new government will be elected with a pledge not to leave eu. Ideally a second referendum but getting the message through that immigration will not change in or out will be tough to get out
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I think only good will come of it, after all the shock factor has settled down.

Remain, leave, or see some big overhaul of the whole EU relationship, whatever happens will be comprises, no one side will get everything they wanted or imagined and we will all live happily ever after, going to jobs, paying monthly bills and eventually getting ill and dying. None of it really matters, may as well do whatever you want and not worry about imaginary situations.
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Boeing is wanting to build its new hq in England. Made its decision after brexit. Future sounds grim. Can't be bothered to find the source, was on Facebook posted by a remain anger monger.
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Why are they so angry
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BBC is really scraping the barrel now in a desperate attempt to find as much negativity as possible

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/video_and_audio/headlines/36664678
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This actually made me lol

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Is that sam from lotrs
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And a slow transition will mean a stable market throughout

The increase does not mean that it's all 'back to normal' and a stable market again. Rather it's a volatile market that hinges on the negotiations. If the negotiations become 'sticky' or don't progress in favour of the country then expect them to go south again.

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Why are they so angry

Uncertainty.
We've gone from a known quantity to the complete unknown with 'leavers' not knowing 'arse from elbow' nor any guarantees that we'll come off better.

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BBC is really scraping the barrel now in a desperate attempt to find as much negativity as possible

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/video_and_audio/headlines/36664678

So a manufacturer makes a statement on losses due to a weak pound and the BBC are 'scraping' the barrel for reporting it, the same as they have on other manufacturer losses linked to the weak pound

No doubt if the source was the DM or Facebook then you wouldn't have a problem with it

[Edited on 30-06-2016 by Dom]
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But there is no guarantee that if we had remained we would have been better off Dom you angry clueless man.
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Real angry people
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Next weeks BBC headline

"Ant farmers in Botswana lose profits due to Brexit"



[Edited on 30-06-2016 by Steve]
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But there is no guarantee that if we had remained we would have been better off Dom you angry clueless man.

But we had a baseline, so if we couldn't have negotiated a better deal with the EU then we would have (roughly) stayed the same.
Leaving the EU means that it's all up in the air, so it could go well or we could end up completely buggering ourselves and if we end up in the position of wanting to rejoin the EU, then there's a good chance that we'll end up with a worse deal that we already have.

As said, you've gone from a known quantity to the complete unknown with little to no assurance from the leave campaign. This is why people are worried, upset, angry.

But then, anyone with intelligence over preventing themselves from dribbling would know that - i'm sure your carer will be around soon to mop up your drool Nic
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He who dares wins

No-one gets anywhere by being scared and taking the safe route.

I also don't think it's as risky as being made out either
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I am finding the EU people a bit like a solicitor.

Jumps in and puts themselves between two people trying to deal with each other and takes the most money from the deal.

We don't need this
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He who dares wins

No-one gets anywhere by being scared and taking the safe route.

I also don't think it's as risky as being made out either

I'm not saying we can't end up better off however, it's fact that there is now a humongous chance of screwing ourselves over if we don't get it right and it'll be a forever struggle in doing that without the safety net of the EU.

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I am finding the EU people a bit like a solicitor.

Jumps in and puts themselves between two people trying to deal with each other and takes the most money from the deal.

We don't need this

You say that but solicitor's, regardless of how costly they are, tend to prevent you from fucking yourself over
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Going to put money on next Tory PM negotiating access to the common market and accepting free movement of people.

Meanwhile, civil war breaks out in Great Yarmouth.

In Clacton, cries of 'go back to where you come from' become almost deafening from the queue of patients waiting outside Boots for their Methadone.

The elderly surface to tell everyone about the war. There were no blacks in their days.

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