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toger13
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13th May 03 at 14:21   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

sorry i keep posting sub threds but i am still not sure and i know you lads / lasses know your ICE any way

i already have an amp and i have been warned off getting 2 12 inch subs which take 125 WRMS
and been told to get 1 that can take 250 WRMS

i have been told to get a Cerwin Vega HED 12 inch sub at leeds car audio
and i have been told at unicar to get a JL Audio W3 12 inch what you all think they both say each others is better or do you think different ?

thanks

Simon
SteveW
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I would always say JL Audio. They are a lot better for normal music. The Cerwin's are more used for SPL. i know Claire Richardson and Daimo have Cerwin Vega so they would be the best to ask about what they think.

There probably itsn't much between them. Although different ICE shops will tell you different stories. You could also go for:
Diamond Audio Mac daddy.
RE XXX (you would need a monster amp to run this properly)
Rockford
Fusion
Audio Bahn

The list is endless.

Steve
DIGGIDY
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13th May 03 at 15:42   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

All depends on how much you want to spend and how good a sound you want.

but spending $$$ is not always the answer.

not much help am i.

my personel prefrence is Infinity perfect 12's. 350 watts, rms. sound sweet and clean without breaking the bank.
toger13
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13th May 03 at 16:26   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

my amp can only do 125rms X2 or 250rms X1 mate i have just looked on the jl sight and the new 10-w3 is 300rms so i would have to tryand get one of the older ones
corb
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13th May 03 at 18:13   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

At the end of the day, volume is all down to air displacement. A 10" wont be as loud as a 12" and a 12" as loud as a 15".

Two 125RMS 12's will be louder than one 250RMS 12". And if you then put the two 12's in a ported box, louder still
SteveW
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14th May 03 at 10:02   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

^^^^^^^^^
Wise word from the man who knows a thing or two.

Steve.
toger13
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15th May 03 at 08:11   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

oh no not again so is having 2 12-W0`s still an option lol
toger13
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15th May 03 at 08:13   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

i dont just want loud (loud is good though) i also want sq cos there is no point in having it if you can just hear bass and no song etc...
CRB 553
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u will always just hear bass from a sub...if u can hear voices cuming from ur subs uve got a prob..!.lol dont wanna b putting high frequencies through ur subs.

For better sound quality though, 2 lower powered subs wud perform better than 1 runnin at twice the power...although in theory the spl shud b the same.

DIGGIDY
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I think toger13 is talkin about not having the bass drown out the rest of the system... i.e. front components ect..
corb
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15th May 03 at 15:34   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

SPL wouldnt be the same, as 2 subs ahve more air displacement than 1, so will create a higher amount of pressure inside the car. If, again, you were to use a ported box, the amount of pressure would again be doubled.

Toger, what components have you got, or how much do you have to spend??
CRB 553
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15th May 03 at 16:37   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

corb am not gonna get into an arguement or nething but 1 sub runnin at twice the power (RMS) is doin twice as much work and therefore even although it moves half as much air, it has double the pressure (2x flow rate), so in theory it shud b the same....
corb
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15th May 03 at 16:38   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

agree to disagre then!
CRB 553
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15th May 03 at 16:39   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

^^^not that we need to go that technical, after all they all go boom, difficult to really tell the difference unless u measuring spl.
toger13
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i have pheonix gold components all round mate running off my head unit though (4x60) but they will be amped in the future i dont realy want to spend more than 250 quid that is prob abit high realy i have been looking at the JL W3 12 inch this has duel voice coils is this good or am i better with a single voice coil ?

thanks for the help hope fully more to come lol
CRB 553
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16th May 03 at 10:46   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

more voice coils the better....
CORS4
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18th May 03 at 12:38   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

yo toger13 where you form?
what watts are you comps?
i might be sellin an amp that could be ideal for you needs

its a 2 ch 400max
alpine v12 MRV T407
not the current range but the last range.
it can do 60wrms in 2ch mode.
toger13
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how much you after mate i am realy after a 4 channel amp as i have 4 components (front and rear) they are 75wrms each as well mate
toger13
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ps ime form west yorkshire too where you cruise if its waki i may have seen you around mte

 
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