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tom130691
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It does sound like terrorism as they didnt call for help but seem to have turned around?
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So what, the terrorists made the plane disappear? Even if they managed to disable the onboard transmitter, the plane could still be tracked by ground radar.
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So what, the terrorists made the plane disappear? Even if they managed to disable the onboard transmitter, the plane could still be tracked by ground radar.


Portable stealth generator
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Fucking awesome tech
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In this day and age why don't all commercial aircraft have remotely accessible CCTV in the cockpit???


Pilots probably don't want to get caught doing fuck all for 6.5 hours of a 7 hour flight.
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Or sexually harassing the flight attendants.
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In this day and age why don't all commercial aircraft have remotely accessible CCTV in the cockpit???

Cost of transmitting the data would be massive. I read an article yesterday (can't remember the site) saying that even transmitting the 'black box' data in real time via satellites would cost billions a year for each airline. They said that as this sort of event is so infrequent that the money is better spent elsewhere.
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Got to be bullshit about the phone. My battery barely lasts 1 day let alone 4/5 days!!


Your lucky to get nearly a day!
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Could it not have landed at some private airfield somewhere?

Odd that no one has come forward to own up to terrorism, or no wreckage or oil slicks reported from said plane.
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Does everyone in Malaysia have iPhones?

What if they are using old style bricks with small screens, phone could easily last for days.
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Originally posted by ed
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Originally posted by Ben J
In this day and age why don't all commercial aircraft have remotely accessible CCTV in the cockpit???

Cost of transmitting the data would be massive. I read an article yesterday (can't remember the site) saying that even transmitting the 'black box' data in real time via satellites would cost billions a year for each airline. They said that as this sort of event is so infrequent that the money is better spent elsewhere.


Was going to say it would have to go via Sat, knowing the cost of Sat phones then this easily explains why they don't do it. I had often wondered.
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Rumour has it derek zoolander has been brainwashed again by mugatu.
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quote:
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I read an article yesterday (can't remember the site) saying that even transmitting the 'black box' data in real time via satellites would cost billions a year for each airline. They said that as this sort of event is so infrequent that the money is better spent elsewhere.


This is where they need to be clever. You don't need to transmit the blackbox - Thats got way more than you need. You don't need to recreate the whole incident in real time. you just need the accurate location in realtime which them means its much much easier to get hold of the blackbox which you can do the post analysis on.

Transmitting that sort of data would still be a few 100's of millions but when you think loosing that plane will probably cost them 400+ million in 1 incident.


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Wouldn't be any easier to get the blackbox if whatever has stopped it transmitting location data this time, happened with a fancy sat system.
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It will not be terrorists.

Pretty shit effort of 'terror'
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Time vortex Donnie Darko style (although plane will end up in the future not the past).
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they find it today btw, not long now.
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quote:
Originally posted by Rob_Quads
quote:
Originally posted by ed
I read an article yesterday (can't remember the site) saying that even transmitting the 'black box' data in real time via satellites would cost billions a year for each airline. They said that as this sort of event is so infrequent that the money is better spent elsewhere.


This is where they need to be clever. You don't need to transmit the blackbox - Thats got way more than you need. You don't need to recreate the whole incident in real time. you just need the accurate location in realtime which them means its much much easier to get hold of the blackbox which you can do the post analysis on.

Transmitting that sort of data would still be a few 100's of millions but when you think loosing that plane will probably cost them 400+ million in 1 incident.




Generally you do have an accurate position of where the aircraft is - they'd be tracking it through the airspace using a Mode S or Mode C transponder, if those have been turned off then you should be able to see it using primary radar. Even if the aircraft has fallen to bits then you should be able to see the debris on primary radar.

If the aircraft hasn't totally disintegrated into dust then you'd expect the Emergency Location Transmitters (ELT) to signify the location of the wreckage. There are apparently two of these, one for land and one for sea on a 777. Failing that, the 'black box' transmits it's location using ultrasonic/microwaves (forget which) for about 2 years after an incident - these signals should be receivable from around 100 miles away.

What's weird here is that the aircraft has apparently disappeared into thin air with no debris and no trace
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saw this on FB NSFW....





[Edited on 12-03-2014 by Ian]
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Massive Cock Pit right there!
Ben G
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Charming.
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That's just great when quickly scrolling through what should be a serious thread while at work.
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I would say its a cunts trick.
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quote:
Originally posted by John
That's just great when quickly scrolling through what should be a serious thread while at work.


this is corsasport, expect the unexpected

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