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Ben G
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ok so in the 2 years we've been here i must've had to re-hand the curtain pole about 5 or 6 times.

the latest one was when i jumped into bed and pulled the curtains down

what fixings (screws/plugs) would you use to hand a curtain pole on a plastboard wall?

tried most things and nothing seems to be strong enough to stay in the crappy wall.
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Toggle bolts, that what we used to hang radiators on plasterboard walls and there considerably heavier than curtain poles

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/M6-X-100-X-50-SPRING-TOGGLE-DRYWALL-ANCHOR-ANCHORS-BOLT-PK12-/270986759466?pt=UK_DIY_Material_Nails_Fixing_MJ&hash=item3f1811cd2a#ht_500wt_922
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how do they work then? guessing the 2 spring things spread apart once inside to prevent them from coming back out?

think i saw them in b and q.
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These are also very strong. Can hang radiators off these on the brackets.

http://cpc.farnell.com/1/1/36427-plasterboard-speed-plug-metal-pk100-msp420-duratool.html
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quote:
Originally posted by Ben G
how do they work then? guessing the 2 spring things spread apart once inside to prevent them from coming back out?

think i saw them in b and q.
Exactly that batman.
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These are also very strong. Can hang radiators off these on the brackets.

http://cpc.farnell.com/1/1/36427-plasterboard-speed-plug-metal-pk100-msp420-duratool.html


thats what were in when it fell down the pointy ends also seem to enjoy breaking off halfway into the wall.
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Weird, I've used them a fait bit an never had any snap or be pulled back out by some fairly heavy items. Did you get cheapo versions from a poundshop or something?

Then toggle anchors it is then.
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The only thing about a curtain pole is the weight is out a bit from the wall so it can lever them.

A radiator, although heavier will be pulling straight down.
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I normally attach some batten to the wall using plasterboard fixings spread out along the centre 4/5 in total then fit the curtain pole to the batten.

Like so:



http://www.juliancassell.com/2254/fitting-curtain-tracks

but instead of fitting tracks you just fit the pole hangers and paint the wood to match the wall.

and plasterboard fixings are:




[Edited on 17-06-2012 by Nismo]
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Why not just screw a batton to the studding?
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[Edited on 17-06-2012 by Nismo]


went and bought these ones from b and q. not cheap shit either, cost me a tenner for proper RAWL ones.

went to screw the cunt in and it seems to get stuck half way in and just keeps turning but not going further in.

proper annoying me now.
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Toggle bolts again.

Although not exactly sure what weight they will take....I was briefly considering hanging a 20kg mirror off several in a line but on thinking about it I think the weight would probably rip the plasterboard off in a straight line across the fixings!
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[Edited on 17-06-2012 by Nismo]


went and bought these ones from b and q. not cheap shit either, cost me a tenner for proper RAWL ones.

went to screw the cunt in and it seems to get stuck half way in and just keeps turning but not going further in.

proper annoying me now.


Your not hitting a stud are you? Pull it out and push an old screwdriver through the same hole is it hitting something?
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Hate plasterboard after moving 2 tonnes worth of the stuff on Friday
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[Edited on 17-06-2012 by Nismo]


went and bought these ones from b and q. not cheap shit either, cost me a tenner for proper RAWL ones.

went to screw the cunt in and it seems to get stuck half way in and just keeps turning but not going further in.

proper annoying me now.


Your not hitting a stud are you? Pull it out and push an old screwdriver through the same hole is it hitting something?


Unless its a timber framed house, you won't be hitting a stud. More than likely it's dot and dabbed plasterboard and it's quite a thin bit of adhesive.

Tbh the best bet is fitting a curtain batten (2x1) on the wall, once youve figured out what your hitting and worked out which fixing to use.
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You can get 'proper' plasterboard anchors (look a bit like hollow wall anchors) - have a look on the screw fix website.
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http://www.tooled-up.com/Product.asp?PID=151327

They'll do the job much better, when you screw them in the go diamond shape and cling to the other side of the plasterboard, we've got loads of them in our walls
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Sounds like the end of the fixing is going through the plasterboard and hitting the block wall behind (assuming its dot and dab) this will cause the fixing threads to spin in the plasterboard and not tighten!
Use long screws 3" with brown plugs into the wall behind plasterboard, don't tighten screws too tight or you'll pull the plasterboard in and crack it.

Either that or draw around a length on 2x1" timber, cut out the plasterboard and fix this direct to the block behind them fix your curtain pole to the wood.

[Edited on 17-06-2012 by ash_corsa]
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quote:
Originally posted by Cavey
http://www.tooled-up.com/Product.asp?PID=151327

They'll do the job much better, when you screw them in the go diamond shape and cling to the other side of the plasterboard, we've got loads of them in our walls


think i've got some of them in the garage. will give that a go tomorrow, cheers

ash, the way you described it is exactly what is happening.
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I wouldn't cut the plasterboard off because if he hits a bit of dot and dab it's sets like concreate and will be very hard to get off,

Do as people have said try sticking something in the hole already and see if there's any thing behind if there is use brown plugs and longer screw

If not use plasterboard fixing or the toggle bolts


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The ones in the link won't work either, as others have said you are hitting the block wall. Just use a masonry bit and plastic plugs with longer screws. You should be able to see the wall through the hole where the Drivas were.
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You will not get toggle fixings in a 20mm cavity!!
Andy - he's already using plasterboard fixings they're what's causing the issue!

Its not hard to shift a bit of dab if you know what your doing.

When I've had this problem in the past and been lazy I've started a plasterboard fixing into the board but don't wind all they way in. Then take it out and cut the pointy end off using pliers leaving just the threaded part. This usually stops the metal fixing hitting the block and causing it to not thread into the board properly.

PB fixings are pretty shit for heavy things like curtains especially when constantly putting strain on them by opening and closing the curtains. Your always better off with a solid fixing using a screw and plug. PB fixings are a last resort!


[Edited on 17-06-2012 by ash_corsa]
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drill threw the bored into the block get long screws then screw tip of screw into plug push plug past board into the block tap with hammer.
Unscrew the screw then fit the brackets up onto the wall.

brown plugs 7mm drill bit for good fit

blue plug larger than brown 10mm drill bit for good fit


[Edited on 17-06-2012 by Jason T]
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them ones cavey posted are the best. i've used pretty much every type of fixing you can by over the years and haven't found aything better.

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