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JaffaTB
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3rd Feb 12 at 23:23   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

rebuilt my 1.4 8v sri and have this very annoying problem, it was working fine before i stripped it to have the head ported and polished, now it will start and idle ok but once i set off and come to a junction and dip the clutch it will drop to zero revs and cut out, i can sometimes save it by giving it some throttle or letting the clutch back up but usually have to restart it, sometimes the ecu light will come on aswell, paper clip test shows 22 and 24, ive checked and cleaned all connections but still the same, any ideas what else i can try? engine is the c14se
DanCobb
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Air flow sensor? Crank sensor? Air leak? My old 2.0 8v done this, can't remember what it turned out to be but one of them if I remember rightly
jay.jay
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4th Feb 12 at 00:01   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

mine used to do that, turned out i blew the fuse for the idle control valve
JaffaTB
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did it used to run fine and idle ok though? I though if it was the icv it wouldnt idle proper or start up very easily
jay.jay
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it used to idle ok when i first started it up, but then id get like 100 metres down the road and the eml would come on then if i braked or let go of the accelerator the revs would just cut out
johnhara1
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4th Feb 12 at 11:35   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Clean your idle control valve out and your throttle body out with carb cleaner.
JaffaTB
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4th Feb 12 at 11:43   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

cheers will try that and see if its makes any difference
JaffaTB
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4th Feb 12 at 13:11   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

ok just cleaned the icv and tps and it made no difference, but i unplugged the icv and drove it like that and it doesnt cut out anymore its just kangaroos a bit a low speeds
corsa-torque
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dont know if its any help, but i had the same problem on my clio, was the map sensor
bally2010
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i had same problem with my engine same as urs but 1.6 all i did was turn the screw up which the rev sits on bodge ftw
3CorsaMeal
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Have you checked all the fuses one by one?
Mark Prydderch
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I remember a friends car had a similar problem. I changed the speedo sensor in the gearbox and that fixed it..
JaffaTB
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tried another map sensor but it was the same with that, ordered a tps as that was the only other thing giving a fault code and it was only 8 quid for a new one so hopefully that should sort it out, if not then Speedo reader is next thing, if that was dodgy I wouldnt get working clock though would I? as they work perfect
Mark Prydderch
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9th Feb 12 at 12:25   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Speedo was working fine, the EML would come on as you were slowing down and it would stall just before you came to a stop.
JaffaTB
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well seems it is the speedo sender, tried a new TPS today and if anything it was worse, the EML stayed on constantly and it stalled every time i had the clutch in, maybe its a dodgy one but going to try cleaning the speedo sender first before i buy a new one of those
scotty GTE
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9th Feb 12 at 21:12   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by JaffaTB
ok just cleaned the icv and tps and it made no difference, but i unplugged the icv and drove it like that and it doesnt cut out anymore its just kangaroos a bit a low speeds


I have the same engine and mind kangaroos really bad at low speed. Do you reckon its icv related?
JaffaTB
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not sure pal, my icv seems fine, unless the speed sensor playing up is sending the wrong signals to everything else causing it to run funny, I reset my ecu and the only code to come up now is 24 - VSS
Jonny.K
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that used to happen in my sri got a camshaft sensor for 26quid n tht was tht saorted lol
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Think you need to run a wire from the gearbox sensor/sender to the Ecu? I did this on my c16xe conversion and it sorted it out!
JaffaTB
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its all properly connected I just need another sender unit
JaffaTB
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well just found one on eBay for 9 quid so bought that, hopefully it will sort it
steve1600sport
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mite be the foofoo valve dude , check thats ok
johnhara1
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if it was the vehicle speed sensor, i'dhave thought the speedo needle would drop to zero and the car would cut out once you come to idle speed.

this is what happens on my focus and the vss has just turned up today so job for tomnorrow.
JaffaTB
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needle does drop quite quickly, sometimes it will catch around 200rpm and come back to life, other times the lights on the dash flicker like its got a short circuit or something, it should be here tomorrow so hopefully it will sort it
JaffaTB
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ok fitted my vss today, got rid of my eml light coming on but the problem of cutting out when coming to a stop was still there, tried a different new tps and it was still the same, so i did what bally suggested and turned up the screw under the throttle butterfly, drove up to my girlfriends house and it didnt cut out once (i was trying to get it to do it) so hopefully it will be sorted, maybe having the head ported and polished and 8 new valves lets the air flow much better and needed it turning up a bit?

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