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Edges 58
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Got my XE in the corsa now together enough to try turning it over.. Good news it does but doesn't start.. The fuel pump relay isn't clicking on with the ignition and I'm not sure why.

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relay from the 1.2 loom


bottom off the relay base on the xe loom


tape pulled away


Any help? Thanks

[Edited on 28-12-2011 by Edges 58]

[Edited on 31-12-2011 by Edges 58]

[Edited on 02-01-2012 by Edges 58]
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It primes as you start the car IIRC
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Yeah but the relay isn't clicking to power the pump
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I'd get a new relay mate, worth a shot and not exactly expensive

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What's that dodgy connection in the picture? Half crimped?

Relay is about £10 on eBay
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Are you getting a spark
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Relay is easy to test - put 12v to the trigger pins and see if it triggers and also put 12v to the output pins and see if whatever its running, runs.
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quote:
Originally posted by Generation
What's that dodgy connection in the picture? Half crimped?

Relay is about £10 on eBay


The wires on the coil! And I can get relays from work for free
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quote:
Originally posted by craig55
Are you getting a spark


Haven't check that yet
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Have you ran the live into the bay?
Also relays on these are garbage so a new one would be a start.
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quote:
Originally posted by gazza808
Have you ran the live into the bay?
Also relays on these are garbage so a new one would be a start.


What live? From where to where? I just plugged the loom in as it came out of a corsa
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ok so i looked more closely at this problem today, there was no connection on the 85 pin of the relay.

this is the trigger but wasnt sure of what side of the trigger so ran a wire from there to the battery negative and the relay clicked on soon as it made contact with the earth. tried starting again and still no start.

looking at the coil, should there be something connected to this upright bit?



also thought i'd take the plugs out and check for a spark.................................



SHIT!! all 4 plugs the same :/

and advice really needed now thanks
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That half crimped thick red should be staight to a perm live the oil could be due to the rocker cover leaking down into them
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quote:
Originally posted by craig55
That half crimped thick red should be staight to a perm live the oil could be due to the rocker cover leaking down into them


the "half crimped thick red" goes to the plug thing for the coil



but what is the empty terminal bit for?

[Edited on 29-12-2011 by Edges 58]
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That is ALOT of oil on the plugs, if the rocker isnt seriously leaking and flooding the chamber where the plugs sit, then you have a fucked engine, rings or stems letting oil into the pots.
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I know, I think it is oil leaked from the rocker cover and got onto the plugs like that as I removed them... I hope it is at least

quote:
Originally posted by Edges 58
looking at the coil, should there be something connected to this upright bit?




??
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I'm getting no fuel and no spark, what have I done wrong?
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Do you have eml light when ignition is on?
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No, what does that mean?
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Engine management light
bottom orange light.
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Oh I know what eml means, I meant what does not having the light on mean
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Might have just not been wired up.
When I did mine I had no spark or fuel I hadn't ran the live into the bay, but for the life of me I can't remember where it went.
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What live is this?
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Ignition live. Thin black wire
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quote:
Originally posted by Generation
Ignition live. Thin black wire


from where to where?

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