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Ian W
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quote:
Originally posted by adiohead
TT/A3 quattro is haldex and not the real thing


Yes, its fake and gives you a false sense of security
Jambo
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Quattro
R Lee
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Like most AWD, Quattro promotes slight and predictable understeer.

I liked it in mine. Felt safe in wet conditions.
Jake
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UcwcToLeAPg
taylorboosh
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my tt could get the back out
R Lee
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You can get the back out on pretty much any car?
Whats your point?
Ian
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I don't get when people say any 4wd system is not real - it either supplies drive to all four wheels or it doesn't
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think it does, but only a small percentage or torque to any set of wheels at once

so never full power to all four wheels
Jake
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surely you dont want drive to all 4 wheels all the time anyway
Steve
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dunno, i think its basically fwd with a small amount of power getting directed to the rear wheels

thats what iv ever heard anyway
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quote:
Originally posted by R Lee
You can get the back out on pretty much any car?
Whats your point?


not really,you couldnt do it properly on a fwd car...
R Lee
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quote:
Originally posted by john-d
quote:
Originally posted by R Lee
You can get the back out on pretty much any car?
Whats your point?


not really,you couldnt do it properly on a fwd car...



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quote:
Originally posted by Joe
Quattro is dangerous imo.

Dave
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quote:
Originally posted by Steve
dunno, i think its basically fwd with a small amount of power getting directed to the rear wheels

thats what iv ever heard anyway


In most instances it sends the bulk of the drive to the front wheels. When the system notices the front wheels losing grip (can be as little as 1/7th of a turn) it then transfers more drive to the rears although I think (and I may be wrong) the maximum is a 50/50 split.

In real terms you have to be a complete pleb to lose traction in a Haldex equipped car. Even with the ESP off you can exit corners in the wet in low gears and on boost without losing drive, this is where the systems really excel.

The stigma attached to the Haldex derived Quattro's seams to be that Audi fans didn't like it as it didn't use the Torsen diff that other Quattros (usually the longitudinal mounted engines) use. Then the internet got hold of it and that was that.

It's not just VW/Audi that use Haldex systems, I know Volvo and Saab do quite extensively and I think Ford use it on the Kuga.

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quote:
Originally posted by Joe
Quattro is dangerous imo.


I 2nd that. Got an 8L here too...


Also, My first name is Joseph



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And your both from lancs, something going on here
joes_1.4_16v_sport
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=97Yatmybd1s


30secs in, Notice how the front wheels go, then rears, then fronts again...


Haldex is crap on early VAG cars. Thats why I've bought a "Blue" upgraded vers.
Jambo
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My Calibra was 4x4. True story.
antnee
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The Haldex system is AWD not 4wd as all 4 wheels aren't powered 100% of the time

quote:
Originally posted by Gary
Quattro is awsome. My old a3quattro sport refused to spin up in the dry. And we tried damn hard!


I never lost traction in mine, even launching it hard in the wet, in the dry the clutch slipped before the tyres!
R Lee
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quote:
Originally posted by antnee

I never lost traction in mine, even launching it hard in the wet, in the dry the clutch slipped before the tyres!


Mine was mapped up to 260bhp with 300lb/ft torque.
Couldn't spin the wheels up in the wet, with traction control off.
Clutch smell was lovely
Corsa_Sport21
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Quattro ist fur sissies.

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