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mattyboy199
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9th Apr 03 at 12:19   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

I m about to buy a 172 & i have looked at both the cup & the 172. The cup is 0-60 in 6.8secs & the 172 is 0-60 in 7.2secs. The cup has been striped of its luxury items to save weight but it actually sits 3mm lower than the 172, don t know why though.
Ojc
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9th Apr 03 at 12:33   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

I would rather a 172 than a Type-R.

But I would not have either, I would have a Astra GSi.
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9th Apr 03 at 12:39   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

I would rather have the type R but ins grp 18
Sooty
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9th Apr 03 at 12:40   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

17 actually... and yes... Type R would be my choice of car ATM over all in this post
Gower
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9th Apr 03 at 12:42   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

I would choose the astra gsi over the type r. But then you probably dont care.
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9th Apr 03 at 12:44   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Type R would still crack its anus open top end. VTEC engine is restricted to 146mph, unrestricted its BYE BYE GSI !
Gower
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9th Apr 03 at 12:45   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Yes but type r's piss me off, Everytime i go out i see about 3 or 4. Way too common.
mattyboy199
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9th Apr 03 at 12:46   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Astra GSI is cool but if you consider the power & type of engine it has compared to a type r then its shit. But then the astras more tunable because it has a turbo.
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9th Apr 03 at 12:52   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

they are all really ugly though CTR is poo.
bradfincham
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9th Apr 03 at 15:07   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

my brother has just got the 2.0 ltr 16v 172,
beleive me this is car worth the money! he used to have an astra gsi but sold it and this is much faster because of the lightness! It leaves a lot of cars embarrased,
my choice for that kind of money or few more for a type r
Ojc
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9th Apr 03 at 15:16   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

No, this is the newer Turbo Astra GSi.

The potential to tune this beast is annormous.

Richy, the Type-R is not restricted to 146mph. That is its top speed, how fast do you believe a N/A 2.0 16v can go?

BYE BYE TYPE-R.
Sooty
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9th Apr 03 at 15:18   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

OJC... well Ive been in a standard one doing 155mph, not argueing this is just fact
Phil321
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9th Apr 03 at 15:20   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

the gsi and the type r are much bigger, much more expensive cars, so there is little point in comparing them!

Mattyboy - how old are you, and what do you pay on insurance on the 172?

The 172 is grp 17 insurance, same as type r and scoob turbo!
Sooty
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for the money... id go for a type r... or a scoob
Phil321
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9th Apr 03 at 15:22   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

for what money? 172 cup is 13k OTR, type r is 16k + and the scoob is about 21k!
Ojc
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9th Apr 03 at 15:31   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

I would purchase a low mileage Calibra Turbo instead.

0-60 - 6.4, top whack of 155mph, full leather interior, wicked handling.

Mate got a 40,000 mile one for 4,600. He is 20 years old, got 2 years no claims and pays 1200 TPF&T insurance.
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9th Apr 03 at 15:34   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

your friend is gay however and it does need a new clutch
Steve
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9th Apr 03 at 15:35   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

they do not handle wicked ollie
Sooty
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9th Apr 03 at 15:36   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Calibra's do not
Ojc
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9th Apr 03 at 15:42   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

It has had a new clutch.

They do handle good, have you ever driven one?

May I remind you of my list?

Mk2 Ford Mondeo ST24 2.5 V6
Mk2 Ford Mondeo Verona 1.8 16v
Mk3 Ford Fiesta Popular Plus 1.1 8v
Mk3 Ford Fiesta Si 1.4 16v
Mk3 Ford Fiesta XR2i 1.6 8v X 2
Mk5 Ford Fiesta 1.8TD
Mk5 Escort GTi 1.8 16v
Mk5 Escort Si 1.4 16v
Ford Puma 1.7 16v
Punto Sporting 1.6 8v
Punto GT 1.4 8v Turbo X 2
Corsa 1.0 12v
Corsa 1.2 16v SXi X 3
Corsa 1.4 16v CDX & Sport & SRi
Corsa 1.6 16v GSi
Nova GSi 1.6 8v
Nova SR 1.4 8v
Nova SR 1.3 8v
Calibra Turbo 4X4 2.0 16v
Tigra 1.4 16v
Mk2 Astra 2.0 16v GTE
Mk3 Astra Si 1.4 8v
Mk4 Astra 1.6 8v Envoy
Mk4 Astra 1.8 16v SXi
Mk4 Astra 2.0 16v Turbo Coupe
Peugeot 205 1.1 8v
Peugeot 106 XSi 1.4 8v
Peugeot 106 1.4 8v Quicksilver X2
Peugeot 106 1.6 8v Rallye
Peugeot 106 1.6 16v GTi
Renualt 5 GT Turbo
Citroen AX GT X 3
Citroen Saxo 1.6 8v VTR
Citroen Saxo 1.4 8v Westcoast
Mk2 Volkswagen Golf C 1.3 8v
Mk4 Volkswagen Golf 1.4 16v
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no GTF with your list
Steve
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yes i have driven one, and they handle turd, i dont carre to see ur queer list ollie
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here goes:

Astra Turbo mk4
Astra 1.6 SXi
MR2 Turbo mk2
VW Passat 2 litre
Civic Type R (new one)
Corsa 1.2 8v
Corsa 1.2 16v
Corsa 1.4 8v
Corsa 1.4 16v
Clio 1.2 16v mk2
Calibra 2.0
Vectra 1.8
Tigra 1.6
Tigra 1.4
Fiesta XR2i
Fiesta 1.1LX mk3
Fiesta 1.3LX mk3
Escort 1.6 16V mk5
XR3i Escort
AX GT
Saxo 1.1
Saxo VTR
Peugeot 205 GTi 1.9
Renault 5 GT Turbo
Mitsi EVO7
BMW 520i
Nissan Micra 1.3SR
Nova 1.2i
Punto Sporting mk2

More but can't remember... im only 18.. so ive done pretty good.

Calibra wasnt a turbo mind... just a 2 litre 16v job.
Ojc
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9th Apr 03 at 15:50   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Yes, this is a Turbo.
Sooty
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Is the handling significently better than the n/a ?

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