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Simon
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29th Mar 11 at 16:02   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

At work we have our company website, we also have an umbrella organisation which has it's own website here http://www.keystonedomain.org/ one of the other companies that is a part of it contacted us the other day saying something was up with the site.

When we access it from work it is the correct site, but what this other guy sees and what I see from my home computer is an advert for wine. I don't know what you guys see but could it be just that the correct site is stored in the cache on the work computers and the domain has expired or something? What may cause it?
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29th Mar 11 at 16:11   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Have you literally just changed the site? Domain changes can take 24 hours to propagate....
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A competitors site of our goes a bit "funny" under different browsers.

Google Safari Sports and click the nike logo near the top middle on their home page and wait for the most random collection of images to appear
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No the site has been setup for a fair while now. I have just done a whois lookup and it says it was updated earlier this month. We are the only ones with access unless it was something done by the host, but this could have been the point it has gone wrong. Whois says it shouldn't expire until next year either
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Whois only looks at the actual domain name itself - you want to see if the hosting servers are being reflected properly from different sources. I'll see if I can find a better tool for you....
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The first thing to do would be to clear the cache and temporary internet files.

Then if you've still got a problem you've got to decide if it's your website or his computer. If he's a noob then he's probably installed some stupid toolbar on his browser that's spamming him with rubbish. Otherwise, get hit to use the Command Prompt in Windows to do a trace route to the site by doing tracert http://www.yoursite.com/ and checking that the final IP address is the one for your web hosting.

The other issue could be DNS related, but I don't know enough about this to comment.
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Seems everyone apart from our work computers gets the wine advert rather than the correct page so shouldn't be anything toolbar, malicious software related, I hope!
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Tell whoever manages the website/domain stuff to check that it's not "parked" somewhere with someone like Sedo.

Probably need to change the nameservers to point to the correct addresses TBH.
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http://who.is/whois/keystonedomain.org/

http://who.is/dns/keystonedomain.org/

Something was updated on the 19th, probably whatever broke it.
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Problem being that guy that used to do it all left a while ago so its falling on our office to sort it will have to speak with hosts. John, I saw that 19th March update earlier and figured as much but thanks

Cheers guys
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The domain expired / was renewed on the 18th March 2011.. so maybe you guys don't own it anymore? Looks like it's gone to a parked page.
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We'd have to know where you were being pointed to internally, if you ping www.keystonedomain.org and get an IP other than 98.124.192.1 the name servers on the internet are wrong.

Neil is probably correct.

I read it as it had autorenewed but maybe it hasn't for some reason.

[Edited on 29-03-2011 by John]
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29th Mar 11 at 17:26   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Whats your internal domain name
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I don't know much about all this but I assumed that it had just been renewed, but maybe it wasn't by us. John, one of your links says Status: AUTORENEWPERIOD. Am i reading that too literally to assume it means it was auto renewed ?

Pow - I have no idea what you mean sorry
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I think the domain name has expired and someone has registered it. There are people/websites that buy up previously registered domain names as soon as they expire to use for their own devices. It's happened to a few that I've let go in the past and they've ended up with similar holding pages.
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That will be a fucker

Cheers for help though, see what happens tomorrow
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Going by what I think I know, the domain was initially purchased 18 march 2009. If it expired and was drop catched the new expiry date would be later in the year, as you cannot catch an expiring domain for something like 60 days after it expires.




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Here we go...

autoRenewPeriod: This status code indicates that a domain has been automatically renewed by the registry upon its expiry date, and that the registry has not yet received payment for the renewal. The registrar will receive a credit note if a domain name on this status code is deleted. The presence of this status code does not prevent any updates to the domain by the registrar.

I guess this is the case and the host has pointed it at this site as it hasn't been paid.


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quote:
Originally posted by dan_m1les
Google Safari Sports and click the nike logo near the top middle on their home page and wait for the most random collection of images to appear

Very random!

http://www.safarisports.com/acatalog/copy_of_Nike.html
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quote:
Originally posted by tom_simes
quote:
Originally posted by dan_m1les
Google Safari Sports and click the nike logo near the top middle on their home page and wait for the most random collection of images to appear

Very random!

http://www.safarisports.com/acatalog/copy_of_Nike.html

WTF!?


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Whatever it was, we got the hosts to sort it today! Cheers for help
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quote:
Originally posted by Simon
Whatever it was, we got the hosts to sort it today! Cheers for help


quote:
Originally posted by Sam
Probably need to change the nameservers to point to the correct addresses TBH.


Was probably the above I expect.
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quote:
Originally posted by Balling
quote:
Originally posted by tom_simes
quote:
Originally posted by dan_m1les
Google Safari Sports and click the nike logo near the top middle on their home page and wait for the most random collection of images to appear

Very random!

http://www.safarisports.com/acatalog/copy_of_Nike.html

WTF!?


Is the tatoo'd man still on that page with his schlong out? Don't really wan to look at work lol

 
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