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ed
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4th Jan 11 at 19:32   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Does anyone else think 4 years is a bit quick for the timing belt needing to be changed? The manual says 4 years, 5 years or 72,000 miles. I'm on 51,000 and only do about 6000 a year. It doesn't give any more information apart from that which is frustrating. Wouldn't forgive myself if it let go though
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4th Jan 11 at 19:35   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Isn't your engine chain driven?
AlexW
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4th Jan 11 at 20:04   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Depends on what kind of use the car has had.
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4th Jan 11 at 20:11   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by pow
Isn't your engine chain driven?

Says belt in the manual.
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4th Jan 11 at 20:12   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Thats weird, sure mine is chain driven.

Used to get the Ibizas done on the 6 year/60k mark
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4th Jan 11 at 20:17   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

4 years seems to be quite short, these days generally they can go from 7 to 10 years. 10 years ago and before they were much shorter intervals but times and materials get better all the time

my zafira 1.8 one is 10 years or 100k where as 10 years ago on the ecotec engines they were 40k or 4 years.

but if thats what the book says then id have it done tbh

[Edited on 04-01-2011 by AdamF]
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4th Jan 11 at 21:05   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

1.3 diesel in the Punto? Thought it was near on the same as the 1.3 CDTi Corsa = chain.

If it's belt Ed, get it changed.

My car is on 43k, and 4 years old in April. Was going to get the cambelt done in February when next MOT and service was due.

It seemed the timing jumped Monday before Christmas, low compression on cylinders 2 & 3. The car is currently at Fiat having the head removed to find out what is going on. Boreoscope showed not a lot. Re-timed which brought compression up but still nothing. No warranty.

Don't go on FiatForum.com. You'll only get depressed

[Edited on 04-01-2011 by deano87]
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4th Jan 11 at 21:07   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

on clio 172/182 you have to do them every time you top up the washer fluid
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4th Jan 11 at 21:15   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Fiatforum is about the worst place for Internet hypochondriacs. I'll check it's not a chain driven engine, but I'm sure they wouldn't have it as a service item at this point if it was. Wikipedia is no help either.

Would still like the Clio though, even with it's Internet rep.
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4th Jan 11 at 21:20   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Some searching suggests it's chain driven. I shall investigate further tomorrow at the garage...
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quote:
Originally posted by jr
on clio 172/182 you have to do them every time you top up the washer fluid


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4th Jan 11 at 21:24   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

It's to do with warranty, manufacturers were saying 40000 miles and old codgers were taking 25 years to do it, so the belt would perish and snap, thus forcing a warranty engine on an old car out of good will.

If they stipulate 4 years, or 5, people will a) not end up never buying a car from the same manufacturer and b) spend more money at the dealer because they're too thick to realise that even if the car is under warranty it doesn't need to be serviced by a main agent using genuine parts.
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4th Jan 11 at 21:27   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

My missed a service. 17,000 miles or 1 year. It went about 2 years till it got to 17,000. I only realised once I had done the deal and got home.

I hope that isn't the cause of my latest troubles.
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4th Jan 11 at 21:35   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Search about says that the chain tensioners don't like old oil and can cause then to get a bit plugged up. 17000 miles is nothing for a modern synthetic but 2 years could cause problems?
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4th Jan 11 at 21:39   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

The MiTo didn't even want a service till 23k or 2 years.

I fucked that off and had it done at a year old
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4th Jan 11 at 21:57   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by ed
Search about says that the chain tensioners don't like old oil and can cause then to get a bit plugged up. 17000 miles is nothing for a modern synthetic but 2 years could cause problems?

Well mine is 1.4 16v petrol with cambelt, so wouldn't apply.

I just checked my service book.

1st service upon deliver - 30.04.2007.
2nd service - 11.05.09 - 19,267.
3rd service - 12.02.10 - 31,293.

so theoretically it doesn't have a FSH. Fucking tight owners, they'd have been contacted by Fiat dealership about the service too, surely.

Anyway Ed, shouldn't hi-jack your thread
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4th Jan 11 at 22:03   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Ed im almost certain it's chain! Been a few months since I left Fiat/Alfa though



[Edited on 04-01-2011 by Kurt]
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4th Jan 11 at 22:09   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Hi-jack once more.

Just checked my book. Cambelt 4 years for short journeys (mines not) or 5 years. Plus not annual service, just mileage.
ed
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4th Jan 11 at 23:26   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by deano87
so theoretically it doesn't have a FSH. Fucking tight owners, they'd have been contacted by Fiat dealership about the service too, surely.

They do like to send letters out telling you your car has no MOT or needs servicing. As said, they don't even need to take it to a main Fiat dealer to get it done. Saying that, the local Perrys Alfa franchise near me is pretty reasonably priced, plus they do a good job.
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5th Jan 11 at 06:35   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

They didn't take it to Fiat for its 1st service anyway which doesn't bother me.

I literally read the whole service book last night. 18k mile services, not based on year although should have an annual check which only involves oil change every 2 years. Atleast I can be sure the service history hasn't caused my latest issue.

 
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