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Andy Stocker

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1st Dec 09 at 10:21

that the VXR is infact running a healthy 240.7 bhp and not 213.6 as recorded at Saturday's RR day.
The technician could offer no explanation other than perhaps the wrong scale was used as Saturday's graph shows a redline @ 6850, whereas todays shows 6350 where it does actually redline at. It also made it's 15 psi of boost, not the 13 psi of boost recorded Saturday.

Pretty miffed that i'v forked out £75 to find out my car is fine

Chris x

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1st Dec 09 at 10:23

Ohhh, thats weird!

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1st Dec 09 at 10:24

cant see any real reason for that tbh, espically when ollie/rachs vxr was a few bhp down on thorneys (7 or something) and alot of cars were making book figures

Andy Stocker

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1st Dec 09 at 10:25

I said that to them today, and as I said the only thing the guy noticed was that TOTD have my redline @ 6850, where the car only revs to 6350

Neo

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1st Dec 09 at 10:26

I've always found TOTD to be quite good, maybe a technician mistake perhaps

Ojc

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1st Dec 09 at 10:30

I did actually suspect this MIGHT have been the problem.

I think they got the scales wrong again for Toms M3 as well.

FruitBooTeR

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1st Dec 09 at 10:35

If it was just down to the incorrect scales how come it made more boost at Thorney still? A different scale wouldn't alter the boost would it? Forgive me ive never been to a RR before.

Andy Stocker

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1st Dec 09 at 10:35

I'm not whinging or pointing fingers, it was best to be safe than sorry especially while the car is under warrenty, however I am annoyed at wasting my time and money to find out all was obviously well

Warren G

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1st Dec 09 at 10:35

ignor the wrong rpm reading. that fact that the afr was below 10:1 worried me. what was the afr there?

Andy Stocker

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1st Dec 09 at 10:37

quote:
Originally posted by FruitBooTeR
If it was just down to the incorrect scales how come it made more boost at Thorney still? A different scale wouldn't alter the boost would it? Forgive me ive never been to a RR before.

No idea, i've no engine knowledge at all

Guy at Thirney showed me a graph of a standard one he ran yesterday and the graphs and curves were almost identical, bar the one yesterday making 246 bhp

Ojc

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1st Dec 09 at 10:41

It could still be a faulty boost solenoid though? Don't they work periodically? Like one moment they work, the next they don't?

Andy Stocker

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1st Dec 09 at 10:42

Driving the car i've noticed no difference at all

Ojc

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1st Dec 09 at 10:45

I suggest you ignore TOTD RR figure and continue to enjoy it then.

Very strange. Maybe it was just cold like Lee suggested.

Andy Stocker

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1st Dec 09 at 10:50

Perhaps.
All is well, thats the main thing

Paul_J

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1st Dec 09 at 10:51

Buy a N/A 3.0 Supra.

Apparently it'd be quicker.

Tomnova16

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1st Dec 09 at 10:59

that makes me feel better, will presume the same thing for mine too

http://www.lemass.co.uk/ for all your automotive/bodyshop needs
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Nic Barnes

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1st Dec 09 at 11:05

if it aint done on a bench/engine dyno, take all rr results with a huge pinch of salt. too many external factors involved to take any result seriously. if it feels fine on the road, then it is fine.

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1st Dec 09 at 11:14

Best bet would be to speak to TOTD and let them know, they might offer up some answers to the differences, and offer money back for your run.

Thats the least they should do (if they were at fault)

The AFR is worrying as above though... that and the boost have nothing to do with RPM scales.

pow

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1st Dec 09 at 11:15

quote:
Originally posted by Tomnova16
that makes me feel better, will presume the same thing for mine too

I don't care about the figure of yours, the noise it makes ohhhhhhhhhh

Ojc

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1st Dec 09 at 11:18

But didn't Stu's VRS do something funny as well?

Paul_J

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1st Dec 09 at 11:32

quote:
Originally posted by Tomnova16
that makes me feel better, will presume the same thing for mine too

Captain Rosco was down on power too... 10 bhp less than standard?

and Fad got a really low result...

Ojc

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1st Dec 09 at 11:36

Fads was about right I thought? Up on his last run?

That ST170 made 160bhp.

Paul_J

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1st Dec 09 at 11:41

quote:
Originally posted by Ojc
Fads was about right I thought? Up on his last run?

That ST170 made 160bhp.

nah fad's spent a fortune on that car, done it all now... and its still under standard power.

Nic Barnes

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1st Dec 09 at 11:45

quote:
Originally posted by Paul_J

quote:
Originally posted by Ojc
Fads was about right I thought? Up on his last run?

That ST170 made 160bhp.

nah fad's spent a fortune on that car, done it all now... and its still under standard power.

the clio's never make what they claim to be. always under.

Tomnova16

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1st Dec 09 at 11:55

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nXaXlDx-oDo

http://www.lemass.co.uk/ for all your automotive/bodyshop needs
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