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Nic Barnes
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18th Jan 09 at 14:38   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
dave a mapped his own car. i wonder how much better the results might have been if someone who knew what they were doing had mapped it.

ive been in a corsa that does road rallying stage things. 211bhp 1600 16v. wasnt anything custom in that engine. all off the shelf parts. it fuckin flew.
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18th Jan 09 at 14:55   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
iirc it wasnt dave who mapped the cars. i could be wrong though!! wont the 1.8 have more torque
Steve X16XE
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18th Jan 09 at 15:01   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Nic Barnes
id honestly not call a 115bhp engine an animal at all. sorry about that.


A kitten is an animal
aron
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18th Jan 09 at 15:11   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
am i right in thinking that mk4 astras came with either x18xe1 or z18xe?

x18xe = 116bhp
z18xe = 136bhp

^is that right? what are the visual differences?
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quote:
Originally posted by aron
am i right in thinking that mk4 astras came with either x18xe1 or z18xe?

x18xe = 116bhp
z18xe = 136bhp

^is that right? what are the visual differences?


Up to 2000 they had (about) 113 bhp then 2000 - 2004 it was 123 bhp.

The torque is 125 for both engines.

Figures from Parkers.

So if it's a Sport then 113 bhp, SRI 123 bhp.
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18th Jan 09 at 15:39   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
later astra gsi mk3 had 130 something bhp from 1.8 16v

these were shockingly slow compared to the c20xe earlier ones

[Edited on 18-01-2009 by Nic Barnes]
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Originally posted by mobby
iirc it wasnt dave who mapped the cars. i could be wrong though!! wont the 1.8 have more torque


dave always maintained the fact he did the mapping a vsport. he once offered to map my car.
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18th Jan 09 at 15:43   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
he said that he mapped the hell out of his corsa, so presumably yes he mapped his own car.
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18th Jan 09 at 15:44   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
how come you say he doesn't know what he is doing?
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18th Jan 09 at 15:45   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
thanks steve

think i'm gonna get signed up to a few astra mk4 forums lol need to learn about these!
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quote:
Originally posted by Nic Barnes
quote:
Originally posted by mobby
iirc it wasnt dave who mapped the cars. i could be wrong though!! wont the 1.8 have more torque


dave always maintained the fact he did the mapping a vsport. he once offered to map my car.


I was at Vsport when you sent your head to him. How did he do with that?
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quote:
Originally posted by aron
thanks steve

think i'm gonna get signed up to a few astra mk4 forums lol need to learn about these!



I think i've now forgotten more that what I now know
Nic Barnes
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18th Jan 09 at 15:48   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
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Originally posted by sand-eel
how come you say he doesn't know what he is doing?


do you think he does? or did?
Nic Barnes
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18th Jan 09 at 15:48   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Steve X16XE
quote:
Originally posted by Nic Barnes
quote:
Originally posted by mobby
iirc it wasnt dave who mapped the cars. i could be wrong though!! wont the 1.8 have more torque


dave always maintained the fact he did the mapping a vsport. he once offered to map my car.


I was at Vsport when you sent your head to him. How did he do with that?


posted it off to be done elsewhere. thats how he did with that.

edit, if you mean the putting it back together?

[Edited on 18-01-2009 by Nic Barnes]
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quote:
Originally posted by Nic Barnes
quote:
Originally posted by sand-eel
how come you say he doesn't know what he is doing?


do you think he does? or did?


I do. But then I don't know much about mapping cars, RR graphs, and everything else that he does. Suspension spring ratings........
Steve X16XE
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18th Jan 09 at 15:51   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Nic Barnes
quote:
Originally posted by Steve X16XE
quote:
Originally posted by Nic Barnes
quote:
Originally posted by mobby
iirc it wasnt dave who mapped the cars. i could be wrong though!! wont the 1.8 have more torque


dave always maintained the fact he did the mapping a vsport. he once offered to map my car.


I was at Vsport when you sent your head to him. How did you get on with that?


posted it off to be done elsewhere. thats how he did with that.

edit, if you mean the putting it back together?

[Edited on 18-01-2009 by Nic Barnes]


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aron
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quote:
Originally posted by Steve X16XE
quote:
Originally posted by aron
thanks steve

think i'm gonna get signed up to a few astra mk4 forums lol need to learn about these!



I think i've now forgotten more that what I now know


i certainly know very little about engine conversions lol

x18xe1 engines are silly cheap and i'm looking for the most sensible way to 160/170 bhp

but mine is already a peachy (totally standard) x16xe... hmm
Nic Barnes
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18th Jan 09 at 15:54   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Steve X16XE
quote:
Originally posted by Nic Barnes
quote:
Originally posted by Steve X16XE
quote:
Originally posted by Nic Barnes
quote:
Originally posted by mobby
iirc it wasnt dave who mapped the cars. i could be wrong though!! wont the 1.8 have more torque


dave always maintained the fact he did the mapping a vsport. he once offered to map my car.


I was at Vsport when you sent your head to him. How did you get on with that?


posted it off to be done elsewhere. thats how he did with that.

edit, if you mean the putting it back together?

[Edited on 18-01-2009 by Nic Barnes]


Fixed


yeah the head was good. but he didnt do it. he built it, ie putting the parts ini which i could have done myself. he just offered to do it for a few quid.

id not even remotely class building a cylinder head as having anything to do with mapping really.
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18th Jan 09 at 16:00   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Nic Barnes
quote:
Originally posted by sand-eel
how come you say he doesn't know what he is doing?


do you think he does? or did?


Well he seemed to get good enough results, but I suppose a lot of trial and error was done, but I would say that is just to be expected.
Nic Barnes
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dont misunderstand me. i like dave. nice bloke, very helpful.

but you cant compensate for years of experience of mapping stuff by having a few rolling road days.
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18th Jan 09 at 16:03   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
All the best had to start at day 1.
Nic Barnes
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quote:
Originally posted by Steve X16XE
All the best had to start at day 1.


does dave still work for what used to be vsport? or has he set up elsewhere? some of his prices were awesome for stuff.
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19th Jan 09 at 00:05   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
iirc they set up under a new name. i hope the conversion ends up worth it. and maybe a remap and flywheel will free some horses
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19th Jan 09 at 00:28   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by mobby
quote:
Originally posted by aron
need videos of this.

i'm considering going with an x18xe1 on tbs

need proof it's a good engine

a x18xe1 on tb's would be mint. warrens aiming for 200bhp from a small block!!!


290bhp from a big block would be better though
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quote:
Originally posted by fro-dizzle

Hope you've mastered how to drive it


Guess we'll find out

you going to be there too?

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