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Author Isuzu Y17DT tuning options, Astravan 2000.
sigibbons
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7th Dec 08 at 15:13   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Im looking at buying one with the Isuzu engine, thing is its only got 75 bhp i think?

This is the newer Isuzu so electronic fuel pump, Has anyone had one mapped or tried flashing it themselves?
How about fitting an intercooler?

Thanks
deano87
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7th Dec 08 at 15:47   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Is this the '1.7DTi' engine? If so, I know Steinmetz do a tuning package for it. You can do more with it than the 1.7CDTi.

And in theory, you can fit a bigger intercooler, because it's an intercooled turbo engine.

This thread may be of use:
http://www.corsasport.co.uk/board/viewthread.php?tid=416389
Corsa_Sport21
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7th Dec 08 at 15:59   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

As far as i was aware theyr isnt much available for the Y17DT tuning wise.
davcohen
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8th Dec 08 at 03:45   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

would be interesting to know as the old model could easily handle more power so surely this one must be the same if the ECU can be messed with
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8th Dec 08 at 06:37   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

y17dt already has an intercooler albeit a small one.
I used to have one in my combo van that i got remapped the difference in the drive was amazing.

before and after torque curves
sigibbons
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8th Dec 08 at 07:44   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Ian, wow! thats impressive. What bhp did it gain with the mapping? What did it bring it up to?

Have you any pics of the engine/intercooler?

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ianofbhills
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8th Dec 08 at 07:53   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

That was just a boggo standard engine and cooler with just a remap
pic but you cant see the cooler as its on the front

can just see the cooler under the number plate here


power wise it went from 75bhp to just under 100bhp but drives so much better with the increase in torque low down

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8th Dec 08 at 07:55   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

mickey mouse rolling road graphs like but for the money it was well worth having it remapped
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The van is in limp mode that im buying, i already knew this as its dirt cheap but it seems very gutless off the mark. Are these engines normal like this or have they alot of go in them?

Oh also Ian, how much was the remap and where from?

Thanks
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8th Dec 08 at 20:32   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by sigibbons
The van is in limp mode that im buying, i already knew this as its dirt cheap but it seems very gutless off the mark. Are these engines normal like this or have they alot of go in them?

Oh also Ian, how much was the remap and where from?

Thanks


They dont move in limp mode ( well not literally but...)
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limp mode is literally that. Its not going to be going anywhere fast thats for sure. rev limit is really low and turbo is hardly boosting you'll need to get that sorted asap.


remap was circa £250 iirc on a group buy thing
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8th Dec 08 at 21:39   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

beware there are some known problems with fuel pump ecu's which can put the engine into limp mode. The solder on the joints becomes brittle and breaks leaving poor connections in the ecu .

Just be sure its not the ecu causing the running problems (very common especially on astra) as it can be quite pricy to fix.
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I know what limp mode is like but my 2L astravan still feels more gutsy.
Have you lot heard of flashing the ECU for a cheap power hike?
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dont waste your time trying to flash the ecu yourself using a kwp2000 programmer etc etc from ebay. The software is usually corupt and the map files you get are sometimes not even for the right car. You'll also have immobiliser problems with a y17dt engine.
Put your money into a reputable company that will flash the ecu for you tbh.
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10th Dec 08 at 17:51   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Thanks for the info Ian. Ive got the van now and am very pleased with my swap!
EML goes out after a while of driving and engine seems to drive ok really, dodgy noise from the inlet area but my mate pinched a pipe going to the EGR and it dissapeared so it might be that.

Is it normal for these engines to have no power hardly under 2000RPM? Thats what made me think its limp mode but one you reay 2.5k onwards it gets going ok!
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10th Dec 08 at 17:56   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

So was the van pretty quick once mapped?
I'm deciding if its worth doing or not really. Where was it you had it done?

Thanks mate
Mike GSi
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10th Dec 08 at 17:59   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Boost tap FTW
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so this is the engine up after the mk3/ corsa b isuzu td engines, im sure the difference in the drive is quite big
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YEah newer version of the Isuzu found in corsas, cavs etc. Just been hunting for tuning bits and some guy on astrasport has his up to circa 140BHP! Bloody good considering its 74bhp std!

I think my egr valve is causing the weird whistling noise, i might actually remove the whole system?

 
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