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Craig P
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16th Nov 08 at 22:37   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Hi,
Whats the Max Power that can be acheived by a X14XE?Without Costing £££
I dont want to Use/Buy TB,Supercharger Etc.And please dont say Buy a 1.6 or 2.0L.

I would like 140BHP,Is this Possible?

Craig
Craig P
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17th Nov 08 at 18:09   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Anyone?
lwigmore
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Location: Sawtry Huntingdon Drives: Saxo VTS
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17th Nov 08 at 18:13   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Don't think so for a 1.4 mate unless you spend quite alot of money

You could buy the usual, 4-2-1 manifold, mantzel or copy powerbox, Cat-back exhaust system with de-cat pipe, Coilovers and strut braces all round for handling if thats what you want aswell
Craig P
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17th Nov 08 at 20:42   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

If i got;
Cams
Manifold
Full Exhaust
Inlet Manifold
Ported + Polished Head
RR + Set Up
Chip + Rev Limiter Raised
Rebuild with all new Gaskets,Sensors,Arp Head Bolts Etc

How much Power will that be?

Thanks
Craig
Simon_16v
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17th Nov 08 at 20:52   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Probably only around 120bhp.

To achieve around 140bhp you'd need throttle bodies. I'm probably only running about 98bhp and i have exhaust system, 4 branch manifold with air filter
Craig P
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17th Nov 08 at 21:54   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Really?I thought it would of been more then that.I though a Power Box added 10-15BHP?(Only what ive Heard)
Craig P
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18th Nov 08 at 00:12   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Help....
Craig P
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????
lwigmore
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you could try for a 1.6 bottom end mate???
Hamish
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18th Nov 08 at 18:00   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by C-R-A-I-G
If i got;
Cams
Manifold
Full Exhaust
Inlet Manifold
Ported + Polished Head
RR + Set Up
Chip + Rev Limiter Raised

Rebuild with all new Gaskets,Sensors,Arp Head Bolts Etc

How much Power will that be?

Thanks
Craig

how do you intend to map a aftermaket "chip". You will need aftermarket management. That little list there will cost a pretty penny too.

Better off starting with a x16xe
Craig P
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Changing the Bottom End is to much work,Might aswell put a diffrent Engine in.

Well its just im still quite Young so didnt really want to Change the Engine,But if its going to be worth it More then i might consider it.Also there the Problem of Rebuilding the Engine and Getting someone to Post it,Then Space and getting someone to Fit it.

I just want to see what my Options are at the Min though...

Thanks
Craig
Hamish
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18th Nov 08 at 18:27   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

easiest option.

sell your car buy 1.6 sport. About 20bhp instantly
Craig P
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18th Nov 08 at 18:36   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Ive spent to much Time and Effort on my Car,And also finding a new Car Etc isnt that Easy.
Hamish
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18th Nov 08 at 18:48   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

I cant see one thing that isnt easliy swapped over

Buying a new car is easy. I betthere are hundreds on autotrader and pistonheads
Craig P
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No i dont mean Modifications,I mean Time & Effort of getting it to its Condition now(Which still isnt Perfect)

Not where i Live its not.If you want a Car you have to Travel Miles and i cant be arsed.Plus this is not what i asked i want to know how much Power can be Made relisticly and how much.
Craig P
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20th Nov 08 at 23:04   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

???
taylor2008
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the best thing to start of with is a straight through sainless exhaust system, de cat aswell, 4,2,1 manifold, performance vx inletmanifold, wich helps alot, air filter, have it re-maped and chipped. and see where that gets you and how you feel with the power and that's what i have done to mine, and keeps up with saxo vtr.

if you still aint happy with that then consider changeing cams ect, pulleys, have the hed ported and polished, but when you start doin these mods to the engine you wont get your money back on it,

good look what ever you decide to do, oh and i recon it is possable to achieve 140bhp, but you will need a big wallet
luke85
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21st Nov 08 at 09:25   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

With your list you should see 120bhp-130 but thats about the limit really without spending a lot more, to be honest your list would come to more than 1k already. With regard to choosing between remapping/chips/aftermarket management Id recomment a unichip, can have the limit at 7.5k with ARP rod bolts (ran mine to 7.2 on standard internals) and can be mapped to work perfectly with the setup you choose.

I had a very similar spec a few years ago and made 123BHP before the rev limit was raised, would probably have seen 130 if i put it on the RR again with the limit at 7200 because as you an see the power was still rising.

Will be good to see the improvements but for the money a bigger engine will see better results, owever if like me back then you couldnt afford the insurance and wanted to do bits as you went along then go for it


luke85
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21st Nov 08 at 09:49   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

That, by the way, was without any headwork
Craig P
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Taylor & Luke - Thanks alot for that,That is a very big Help and just the Advice/Help i need,Which actually Answered my Questions without saying "Just get a faster Car Or Bigger Engine"

Thanks Again
Craig
Richardhhha
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tbh in a few months im going to be sorting my 14xe out with new inlet, filter, manifold, and a flywheel with clutch.. Flywheel will make it faster as it will rev quicker.. Needs a clutch anyway, and i want a bit more poke when doing motorway driving.. Should give it about 100bhp so will be happy with that
20valver
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quote:
Originally posted by C-R-A-I-G
If i got;
Cams, find a doner vehicle then swap them over
Manifold, either make your own or find one down the scrap yard
Full Exhaust, make your own or find a doner vehicle
Inlet Manifold, port and flow the standard one or get one from the scrap yard or even make your own
Ported + Polished Head, do this your self
RR + Set Up
Chip + Rev Limiter Raised
Rebuild with all new Gaskets,Sensors,Arp Head Bolts Etc

How much Power will that be?

Thanks
Craig
loon_lad
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21st Nov 08 at 16:08   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

somebody on mig has a good 1.6 for sale 1100
Craig P
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quote:
Originally posted by 20valver
quote:
Originally posted by C-R-A-I-G
If i got;
Cams, find a doner vehicle then swap them over
Manifold, either make your own or find one down the scrap yard
Full Exhaust, make your own or find a doner vehicle
Inlet Manifold, port and flow the standard one or get one from the scrap yard or even make your own
Ported + Polished Head, do this your self
RR + Set Up
Chip + Rev Limiter Raised
Rebuild with all new Gaskets,Sensors,Arp Head Bolts Etc

How much Power will that be?

Thanks
Craig



Surely most of that needs Special Equipment?Also it cant be that easy?

And what is the chances in finding Second Cams etc,As there is Non in my Scrap Yard?
Ryan
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tbh for all the stuff on that list it would be much cheaper and less time consuming than an engine transplant e.g. redtop. and when everything is declared on your insurance i wouldnt have thought there would be much differance either.

and the chances of you finding aftermarket cams to suit your car in the scrappy are very unlikley.

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