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deano87
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23rd Sep 08 at 18:32   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

. . .I've started a thread about this before, but want to get it sorted once and for all.

Is this like to be the IACV bare in mind the Engine Management Light ISN'T ON.

Is there anything else this could possibly be? I've heard people talk about a 'coil pack', but I have no idea what one is etc?!

Is it beneficial to clean the IACV (the sprung part) with something such as carb cleaner? Is carb cleaner the right thing to use?

Any help would be appreciated. Also, with the revs dropping so low and the idling being very lumpy, could this cause any other trouble?

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unplug it, hold it out in front of you and spray a load of carb cleaner of it until it runs clear
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quote:
Originally posted by jake
unplug it, hold it out in front of you and spray a load of carb cleaner of it until it runs clear

I take it I have to cover up the plug where it connects to the car wiring loom?!
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I can't see cleaning it making a difference as its a sealed unit anyway.
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If the motor in fooked in the icv, spraying brake clear is gonna do fook all.
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quote:
Originally posted by Joe
I can't see cleaning it making a difference as its a sealed unit anyway.

What about the sprung bit that works along side the throttle cable?
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Do does it sound like the IACV, as I don't want to rule out anything else?
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Check your fuses. My moneys on that its a yellow one thats blown (cant remember its amperage!)
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fuse? yeh prob is the icv, you wil have to get the stepper motor reset at vauxhall aswell proberly.
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http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Idle-Air-Control-Valve-Vauxhall-Astra-Corsa-825485_W0QQitemZ230240306301QQcmdZViewItem

As you can see there isn't much that cleaning will do to that.
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quote:
Originally posted by jahunt
fuse? yeh prob is the icv, you wil have to get the stepper motor reset at vauxhall aswell proberly.

Stepper motor?

I know I can reset the ECU by leaving the battery disconnected for more than 1 hour, however not sure how my alarm will react

Joe - I guess not.

Been emailing LMF Vauxhall via eBay today (who actually trade as 'VauxhallpartsUK') and they have non-Bosch/GM IACV's that they never have problems with and are warranted. Might give one a go.
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I've also read on here about a leaky breather pipe & something to do with a vacuum?
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Could be that, give it a quick check over.

Yeh stepper motor is the motor in the icv
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One question. . .what is a breather pipe/vacuum system?
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You get crank case vacum, and if there is a leak more air gets in to the engine via the rocker and makes the engine idle rough.

http://www.salvagedealers.com/LANCS%20WEBSITE%20IMAGES/VAUXHALL%20CORSA%201.0%20'W'%20009%20WP.jpg

See near the throttle cable to the right there is a pipe going to the top of the throttle body, thats the crank case breather pipe.
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quote:
Originally posted by jahunt
You get crank case vacum, and if there is a leak more air gets in to the engine via the rocker and makes the engine idle rough.

http://www.salvagedealers.com/LANCS%20WEBSITE%20IMAGES/VAUXHALL%20CORSA%201.0%20'W'%20009%20WP.jpg

See near the throttle cable to the right there is a pipe going to the top of the throttle body, thats the crank case breather pipe.

The bit that goes from beside the 3 bolts in the round plastic thing to the rocker cover?

The bit circled in green?




And how do you know if it's leaking etc?

[Edited on 23-09-2008 by deano87]
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what have you tried already? no point going in with a big fix if you have tried the small ones
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quote:
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what have you tried already? no point going in with a big fix if you have tried the small ones

Nothing, hence why I've posted on here

I don't want to spend out on a new ICV and then have the trouble of that being calibrated to the ECU, if it is simply a pipe that is split or something

Jahunt - is the bit I've circled the bit you were on about?
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You don't calibrate a new one to the ECU, just fit it and start the car.
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yeh thats it!

See if that has any holes in it, if it doesnt, must be the icv, what does it do?
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quote:
Originally posted by jahunt
yeh thats it!

See if that has any holes in it, if it doesnt, must be the icv, what does it do?

What do you mean? I've described everything it does
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quote:
Originally posted by Joe
You don't calibrate a new one to the ECU, just fit it and start the car.

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right then first treatment which worked for me and others who i have passed on my wisedom to is the following.

the ICV needs recalibrating. scary? no! disconnect the battery, wait an hour this clears the memory. reconnect, go for a "normal" drive
see
http://www.corsasport.co.uk/board/viewthread.php?tid=44965

the ICV is a constantly adapting unit reset is the first option, then if that doesnt work move on to repair/replacement

you already know about this
http://www.corsasport.co.uk/board/viewthread.php?tid=452304
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I'll give it a go next week, as I definitely need a working car tomorrow and need to read up on the instructions for my alarm

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