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John
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16th Feb 08 at 14:45   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Toshiba are ceasing manufacture.

Steve is so lucky the search doesn't work properly.
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got a link?
i know The Register had it up that an insider said theres a big possibilty that Toshiba will be shutting down production in a few weeks, but Toshiba are apparently denying it.
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http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/16/toshiba-pulling-the-plug-on-hd-dvd-already/
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werent toshiba the main supporters of it along with microsoft? maybe thats why they are denying it
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Microsoft do not support hd-dvd at all, they just happened to bring out a drive for the xbox.
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i dont think blu ray will take off much either tbh, downloading is the future imo anyway
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Steve as we have already told you, until you can download and store 30 gig in a couple of minutes there has to be some sort of physical media, blu ray will be about for a while yet.
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owned... ps3 is blatently accountable for it, and the fact hd dvd players were expensive.
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hd-dvd players were cheaper than blu-ray players.
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i dont think its anything really, i dont think blu ray will sell either, general non geeky people just dont care enough about having a slight improvement in quality, over a normal upscaled dvd to warrant its purchase, both hardware and the increased cost of the movies on disk

i am one of them, hence i dont own either to this day

[Edited on 16-02-2008 by Steve]
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neither will take off tbh


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To be honest, as steve says... currently the market DOESN'T need hd player / blu ray...

DVD's are adequate quality and not everyone has a HD tv to notice the difference.

I think Recordable HD DVD's may of been a good thing, as you could've got an amazing amount of data on them. But bit of a gimmick... Loads of people who had ps3's go 'Well, I've got a blue ray player with it' but then they don't buy any blue ray discs waste of time.
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You get recordable blu-ray and they fit more on them than hd-dvd did, dvd's are not adequate quality if you have anything more than an old crt.

The current market is all about lcd's and plasmas, nearly everybody has one, and you need a high def player to get that resolution, an upscaled dvd isn't the same.
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Damn.

so my hd dvd player is useless?!
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Yip.
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quote:
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You get recordable blu-ray and they fit more on them than hd-dvd did, dvd's are not adequate quality if you have anything more than an old crt.

The current market is all about lcd's and plasmas, nearly everybody has one, and you need a high def player to get that resolution, an upscaled dvd isn't the same.


have you played an ordinary dvd on a hd tv using an upscaling dvd player? more then adequate, coupled with the fact dvds have a higher res then SD by default anyway
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Better get that shit on ebay
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My ps3 also upscales steve, as does my dvd player downstairs, not as good, they are generating information thats not there.

Dvd's are 768x520 iirc, thats widescreen sd resolution.
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quote:
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My ps3 also upscales steve, as does my dvd player downstairs, not as good, they are generating information thats not there.

Dvd's are 768x520 iirc, thats widescreen sd resolution.


of course its not as good, but its totally adequate enough for joe public to not spend money on a bluray player and disks
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You argued the point about hd-dvd being better about a year ago, i'm saying that blu-ray will have plenty of life for at least a few years, we'll see who's correct this time a year or 2 down the line.

I expect to again be saying you're lucky search doesn't work.
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pmsl

blu ray may stick around for a bit, but it wont sell in its millions like dvd did when it took over from vhs.

Its a stop gap for something else, more revolutionary to take over
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Im a massive movie fan, have a 50" plasma tv, got the hd dvd player cos it was on offer when i got my 360. Hd dvd/blu ray prices are cheaper than dvds when they originaly came out so i wouldnt say price is much of an issue?!

no way of making my hd player play blu ray?
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yeah it will sell to people like you, hardcore movie fans, or hardware geeks, but it wont sell to EVERYONE like dvd did
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Yes it will, the ps3 will help it along the same as the ps2 did for dvd, don't let the fact you bought the lesser console cloud your vision in regards to blu-ray, it's not a sony only venture.

[Edited on 16-02-2008 by John]
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Seeing how rapidly blu ray has grown, far more than dvd did (i worked for mvc when they launched) id say that blu ray will be around for a long time tbh

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