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Vaux Lad
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18th Sep 07 at 16:59   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by WMCMoo
quote:
Originally posted by Vaux Lad
That exhaust manifold/turbo will never clear the radiator.
Its just a standard manifold with a adaptor plate of some sort bolted on.


OKkkkkkk...... what you mean by this hahah !

Look at the flange for the turbo, its facing forwards right by the radiator
Cole
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18th Sep 07 at 17:00   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

but it worked though it was a one off bit of a bodge to be fair as ther old one had rotted the turbo did sit lower in the nova a lot lower but then he kept doing the seals ont he turbo but this way he didnt

[Edited on 18-09-2007 by Cole]
willhouse
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running a 5th injector using a map sensor and a couple of boost activated switches and a feed from the coil will sort extra fuelling at not a massive cost.

other alternative would be to run an uprated carb from a nova sr on a nova sr inlet and run it that way.
Vaux Lad
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You cant run boost pressure through a nova sr carb.
Assuming you mean the standard one.
stan_the_man
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Are you wanting real power or are you just after a ptssscchhhhh sound?
pomada
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Originally posted by Dean_W
compression ratio.

management.


Two key points here...you need to low your compression ratio or use low/minimum turbo pressure...if not, your pistons rings will crack on the first boost!

And you need to fnid out a way to put more fuel for the great mass flow you will have...one more injector with a eletroni management is a cheap and good solution...you can try standalone managament, but is more expensive and complex.

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That exhaust manifold/turbo will never clear the radiator.
Its just a standard manifold with a adaptor plate of some sort bolted on.


The problem is not the standard manifold with the plate, but, as said by the same user in other post, the problem is that is going towards the radiator!!

But you have almost everthing, the intercooler and oil cooler are nice!

You have to check if the turbo is ok also!
pomada
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Here's some pics of turbo Corsa engine we mounted some years ago, you can note the original exaust manifold, but is sectioned and welded, later finished, thus to be able to install the turbo, in the case a T2.



You can also note near the throtle body in a aluminum suport an extra injector.

Other thing is the oil filter...with the original/modified manifold, the turbo gets really close to it, is common around here to replace it for the Renault Clio oil filter, that is shorter.



And, don't forget once you have boost and fuel you will have power, so your original clutch is not match for it...this one on the pic is a Astra clutch, modified with six ceramic plates, no springs - for Corsa.



Cheers!

[Edited on 19-09-2007 by pomada]

[Edited on 19-09-2007 by pomada]
WMCMoo
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fucking hell mate thats one hell of a engine !
WMCMoo
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quote:
Originally posted by stan_the_man
Are you wanting real power or are you just after a ptssscchhhhh sound?


well im not after a massive difference i after the ptssscchhhhh sound yes who wouldnt lol
WMCMoo
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quote:
Originally posted by pomada
quote:
Originally posted by Dean_W
compression ratio.

management.


Two key points here...you need to low your compression ratio or use low/minimum turbo pressure...if not, your pistons rings will crack on the first boost!

And you need to fnid out a way to put more fuel for the great mass flow you will have...one more injector with a eletroni management is a cheap and good solution...you can try standalone managament, but is more expensive and complex.

quote:
That exhaust manifold/turbo will never clear the radiator.
Its just a standard manifold with a adaptor plate of some sort bolted on.


The problem is not the standard manifold with the plate, but, as said by the same user in other post, the problem is that is going towards the radiator!!

But you have almost everthing, the intercooler and oil cooler are nice!

You have to check if the turbo is ok also!



im going to run it lowest possible boost until i can get everything together money wish , i have 500 quid to spend on the engine to get it running also the turbo needs new oil seals which are 12 quid off eGay .. are they easy to fit ?

and as for the flange towards the radiator cant it just be modified ?

[Edited on 19-09-2007 by WMCMoo]

[Edited on 19-09-2007 by WMCMoo]
Cossie
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have you checked turbo kit from mvaux ? they are in brasil and i think still not in business as i send them 2 emails and tried to phone but no one answer pomada you from brasil can y confirm ?
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quote:
Originally posted by Cole
still better off doing it to a 1.6 my mates old spec on his 1.6 8v ONE headgasket, T3 turbo, frontera intercooler, cossie fuel pump, powerboost valve, stainless steel boost pipes, bailey EVO dump valve, F16 gearbox with one off clutch and big drive shafts, short shift


Most novas i've know with a turbo on the 1.6 8v has needed a rebuild quite soon. Quite problematic.

Heres a 1.4 8v Turbo. Good little mod, the engines quite strong and with adiqute parts (5th injection etc), can be run at 5-7psi all day.



1.0 12v turbo, but similar setup.




2.0 8v, but again, similar setup.



jr
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2nd one down is a 4 cyclinder daimo ?
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Good point, i've only jsut noticed that

The guy that posted it years ago was from Brazil claiming it as his 1.0 12v.

Never really properly looked at it
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quote:
Originally posted by VXR
Good point, i've only jsut noticed that

The guy that posted it years ago was from Brazil claiming it as his 1.0 12v.

Never really properly looked at it


the brazilian 1.0 was a 4 cylinder
stan_the_man
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So would that be a C10SE engine then?

Looks MPi
Daimo B
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Ahh, that'll be why then
pomada
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quote:
Originally posted by VXR
Good point, i've only jsut noticed that

The guy that posted it years ago was from Brazil claiming it as his 1.0 12v.

Never really properly looked at it


No no, 1.0 4cil! 8 or 16v
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quote:
Originally posted by Cossie
have you checked turbo kit from mvaux ? they are in brasil and i think still not in business as i send them 2 emails and tried to phone but no one answer pomada you from brasil can y confirm ?


I never heard about, after you said I searched on the web and found this:
mvaux turbos

So, I can't really tell if still in bussines or not. Anyway, turbo kits are quit common around here, you can buy one for something like R$ 1500,00 (around 375 of your money) - that is for turbo, exausth manifold, pressure tubes, hoses, valves and other small stuff.
Vaux Lad
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Pomada-That looks very cool indeed, nicely built.
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That engine setup is for intercooler in the side of the tb, the hood must be modified, yours intercooler looks like frount mounted, some like this:



The thing with frount mount intercooler is the piping that will need to be build, hoses all around are not a good idea, for a quite logical reasons, so you need to find a kit, do yourself or found a service shop to do it for you.

Here's some pics of the same car pressure tubes:







The final result is something like this:



Again you can note the fifth injector near the tb. Simple but effective, no boost no extra injection..so the car runs original with no pressure (original fuel consumption).
Vaux Lad
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What controls your fifth injector?
pomada
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quote:
Originally posted by Vaux Lad
What controls your fifth injector?


Is quite common around here the famous "box" who controls extra injectors, in some cases the timing too. These two engines have different controller box, but both act on the timing too, retard according to pressure, you make your setup by turning a controller.

One is "Hardware Engine Control Systems" and the other "UniDesign"...the second one is better, but both work well.

Some cases, to get more serious about, some people change to standalone, most used here is the "Fuel Tech Engine Management", with it you can setup everthing, choose your ignition system and so on, just like a Motec.

[Edited on 19-09-2007 by pomada]
WMCMoo
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quote:
Originally posted by Cossie
have you checked turbo kit from mvaux ? they are in brasil and i think still not in business as i send them 2 emails and tried to phone but no one answer pomada you from brasil can y confirm ?


tbh it looks similar kit to that from mvaux
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carb cover?

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