Scotty C
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Looks the same as my C16XE head -
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Vaux Lad
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But that looks the same as my x16 head/\
Lmao
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Scotty C
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The X16XE head has bits of casting goin in between the spark plug holes.
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Vaux Lad
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Indeed it does, just looked at pics of mine.
Never noticed that before.
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Scotty C
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WTF are they? they must serve some purpose.
Back to the original question, It MUST be the C16XE head then.
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Vaux Lad
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Yup it must be c16xe.
As x14/x16xel ports are different.
And X16xe has casts near the plug holes.
Looking at them, they dont seem to serve any purpose, there just there,lol.
Heres my x16 head, you can clearly see the round casts:-
[Edited on 13-05-2007 by Vaux Lad]
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Robin
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I would have probably spotted that if I had a picture of the top of my head 
What inlet have you got on there Vaux Lad?
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Vaux Lad
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Just a std one atm Robin, albeit cleaned, and in gloss black  lol
Hoping fit some form of mantzel box, or carbs/bike tb's at some point tho.
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Robin
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Thought it was, just wondered because of the colour
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gavin18787
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Went to warren.g's today and have confirmed that its not the right head 
Its an X14xe / X16XEL as the inlet ports are smaller
Drives supercharged Tec with torque  
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Dave A
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ive seen x14/x16/c16 with and without those round castings in the head.
I have a C16xe head thats been polished and ported to a high standard if you want it Gav..... £200. has been skimmed and pressure tested recently as well as new valves fitted and stem seals. think the followers are new as well, was going to keep it for my new engine but have changed my plans.
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Warren G
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quote:
Originally posted by Monster
quote:
Originally posted by warren.g
5 dots - 1600 head
3 dots - 1400 head
inlet ports - 48mm for 1400 head
inlet ports - 54mm for 1600 head
as we found out today gavin!
Robin's 1400 head has 5 dots.
had 4 cylinder heads in front of me today..
the 5 'dots' you can see in the picture works out what head you have, the heads with 5 dots extruded where my c16xe head and gavins x16xe head
and the ones with 3 dots extuded (like in the picture, but not visable due to angle of picture) were my x16xel cylinder head (aka a 1400 one) and the new head gavin had, which tuned out to be a 1400 one
ports sizes were measured - 1400 head 48mm across inlet ports, 1600 head 54mm across inlet ports
and exhasut ports all the same
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Robin
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So, my X14XE head should have 3 sticky out dots and 2 flush ones?
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Robin
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Which it doesn't -
and it is 100% a 1.4 head.
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Warren G
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as far as i understand - yes
if not im confused 
what were the port sizes?
but you can see my understanding tho........
[Edited on 13-05-2007 by warren.g]
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Robin
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I can't measure the port sizes Warren, it's a ported head
I don't think there's an actual way to tell by looking, unless you measure the ports TBH.
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Warren G
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do vauxhall even no........
seems no one can actualy tell by visualy looking
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Robin
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46mm exhaust, 55mm inlet on mine, I measured it anyway
[Edited on 13-05-2007 by Robin]
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gavin18787
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surely the dots must be there for some reason 
Drives supercharged Tec with torque
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Dave A
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same dots are there on my z18xe....
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Robin
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I think there needs to be a dot survey conducted.
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gavin18787
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indeed, who knows an insider at vaux
Drives supercharged Tec with torque
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Warren G
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okay
DOTS
x14xe x16xe c16xe
3 5 5
3
5
do continue
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Robin
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quote:
Originally posted by warren.g
okay
DOTS
code:
x14xe x16xe c16xe
3 5 5
3
5
do continue
[Edited on 13-05-2007 by Robin]
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gavin18787
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Right i think I will get the one from dave a
Are we all in agreement that the C16xe head will be fullly compatible with the X16xe engine i have
Drives supercharged Tec with torque
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