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Author Can i remove the SAI system from an X14XE
Dafz
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can i remove the SAI system from my X14 xe without affecting the way it runs?

if so what do i need to blank/cover after removal?
Dean_W
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Yes you can.

Theres two ways. You can either use the gasket from a 1.6 that doesn't have the SAI, or you can take the mushroom off and then get a plate welded over the hole. The black hoover just unplugs and then you can chuck it in the shed.

Mine hasn't got an EGR or an SAI and runs fine.
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easiest way to do it is clamp something in the pipe that comes off the valve i used a spark plug if you put a 4-2-1 manifold on it blanks the whole lot off anyway
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dean is there any chance i can bolt something in rather than weld then?

andy that sounds a bit of a bodge tbh mate, thanks but ill try a plate lol
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what reason are you removing it ?
Dafz
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its a rally car and its in the bloody way lol

the less things there are in the engine bay, the less things to go wrong and if something does go wrong the less time lost diagnosing it
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it was a bodge before the manifold went on if ur keeping the standard manifold then the best thing to do it fill it with some weld as said
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quote:
Originally posted by Dafz
dean is there any chance i can bolt something in rather than weld then?

andy that sounds a bit of a bodge tbh mate, thanks but ill try a plate lol


You can. A lad round here tapped the manifold and then put a bolt in it.
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quote:
Originally posted by andyc1234
easiest way to do it is clamp something in the pipe that comes off the valve i used a spark plug if you put a 4-2-1 manifold on it blanks the whole lot off anyway


Depends which 4-2-1. some are made with the takeoff path in the flange bit.
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quote:
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dean is there any chance i can bolt something in rather than weld then?

andy that sounds a bit of a bodge tbh mate, thanks but ill try a plate lol


You can. A lad round here tapped the manifold and then put a bolt in it.



now that sounds better, nice stainless caphead bolt, had thought of doing it but didnt know if it would be a good idea.

cheers mate.
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could you not use a standard corsa gsi exhaust manifold without the sai rubbish?
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wots an sai??
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Secondary Air Injection.
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thanks...
Dafz
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pulled it all off today, just got a hole there now making my car sound like a tractor and miss like fook....only until tomorrow though as im having a blanking plate made.

what would you recommend doing to the electrical connectors from the pump etc?

GavCorsa
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should have just left the valve on till u got the blanking plate, then no tractor noise, lol
just tape up the plug so no water gets in and hide away somewhere
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lol i know

never mind my plate is coming at 5pm tonight along with an EGR blanking plate

how is the SAI connected to EGR?
Dean_W
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They are two different systems. One puts air into the exhaust, one circulates exhaust gasses.
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right pulled it all off, plated it up and sealed it.

missing like fook now, what can it be?
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Strange. It shouldn't miss, as it's nothing to do with the running of the car. I took mine out with no problems.

Have you undone anything else and forgot to put it back? Vacum pipes etc?
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no nothing at all.

removed the SAI valve and all its pipework going to the pump, disconnected the pump and its leccy bits.

nothing else

actually theres one tiny little vacuum pipe going from the sai valve to a collage of 3 vaccum pipes, i removed that to obviously.

[Edited on 20-02-2007 by Dafz]
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has anybody got pics of this in step by step, as i want to do this but am not to sure how
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Yep, I know where you mean. What was unplugged on mine was the big black cylinder and the pipework to the manifold. I don't think any wiring was taken out.
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theres a connector that goes onto the black cylinder though, so u must have taken it off.

other than that i did exactly the same as you, how did you blank yours off?
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Mines blowing a bit at the mo as it still has the mushroom on the manifold. Put the connector back on the block see if that helps. I don't recall this being taken off.

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