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mk4_astra
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14th Jan 07 at 11:53   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

toshiba have announced plans for a 50GB HD-DVD which brings it up to the same storage space as blu ray.
http://hddvd.highdefdigest.com/news/show/CES:_Toshiba_Surprises_with_50GB_HD_DVD/422

also there have been 300 new titles added to the hd-dvd list, and planet earth comes out on the 24th april on hd-dvd and blu ray which will look fcuking awsome
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i cant even be bothered to keep up with all this shite lately. i still havent felt the urge to buy an hdtv yet
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looks like blu ray is already feeling the heat. I have a HD DVD for my xbox on order, £120
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i really need to get myself one, £120 is a bargain for a 1080p hd movie player. selling well at around 100,000 units sold already
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Have you got anything to connect the drive to that will output in 1080p?
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Originally posted by John
Have you got anything to connect the drive to that will output in 1080p?


i have the samsung r74so probably not , though 1080i movies through hdmi should still be very impressive

[Edited on 14-01-2007 by mk4_astra]
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i hear microsoft will be releasing a HDMI cable also.
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Its got a bit of catching up to do. This jump is only on a par to the already announced 100GB Blu-Ray Quad layer discs.
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yes but look at the costs vs performance
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i know about the 100GB blu ray discs but at the moment its looking likely that they will be only used for blu ray recorders as 100GB for movies is absolute overkill.

50GB on either format is good for about 5 hours of HD video
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yes, so a 2 disk box set is 10hours od HD viewing

[Edited on 14-01-2007 by topshot_2k]
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i hear microsoft will be releasing a HDMI cable also.
m/s havent said fuck all yet, just an "idea" those leaked videos apparently. we shall see though
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they also said no to 1080 but we have that now. HDMI cable will be here by the summer
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i hear microsoft will be releasing a HDMI cable also.
m/s havent said fuck all yet, just an "idea" those leaked videos apparently. we shall see though


you can only reach 1080p through HDMI though, and as far as im aware the hd dvd add on simply goes into a usb port on the back of your 360 and has no HDMI output itself(the hd player) so microsoft would need to realese one if they except people to use 1080p
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The scaler chip in the current 360 can't output 1080p.
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The scaler chip in the current 360 can't output 1080p.
yet to be seen i think. microsoft for some reason keep everything quiet for way too long
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The scaler chip in the current 360 can't output 1080p.


As john said, current scaler seems to show that it's impoissible to produce 1080p - hence why a HDMI cable hasn't come out as both the VGA and Component cable can handle up to 1080i
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The scaler chip in the current 360 can't output 1080p.
yet to be seen i think. microsoft for some reason keep everything quiet for way too long


It's definitely a new chip in the new xbox revision so I doubt they'd change it from a non 1080p one to a 1080p one for no reason.
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Which revsion is this? Not the spy shots that been pulled up for not being a real product.
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What were the spy shots then?

I didn't follow it after high res pictures of it were shown.

There was at least one of them made then if its not coming out.
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There was spy shots which a HDMI port on it but they apparently are not of a real product. Some sort of prototype of what it could have look at release had they put one on - which then didn't in the end.
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john i believe they were the same pics in that thread you posted about the 360 v2, i heard it was just a 360 owner with brains upgrading his 360 but alot of people seem to think it is a prototype of an updated 360 to try and win over possible ps3 buyers
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I believe the current xbox 360 outputs at 1080p over the VGA cable, so the scaler chip seems to do fine in that respect. Component can output games at 1080p also, but most monitors/TVs cant take 1080p via component inputs, but some can and do.

More to the current point though, if you have native 1080p contect (HD-DVD) outtputing at 1080p to a 1080p monitor then it doesnt matter what the scaler chip can do, since it wont even be used.
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its all old hat anyway. HVD, Holographic Versatile Disc is where its at. 3.9TB's per disc anybody?

Using MPEG4 ASP encoding, a 3.9 TB HVD could hold between 4,600–11,900 hours of video—just over one year of uninterrupted video at usual encoding rates.[1] Using typical satellite radio encoding (CT-aacPlus at 40 kbps), a 3.9 TB HVD could hold over 26.5 years of uninterrupted stereo audio.

However, the reader will cost around US$15,000, and a single disc will cost around US$120-180

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thats pointless for the home user market.

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