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deano87
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8th Jan 07 at 13:12   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

I hear the latest S3 suffers from a screaming engine?
jr
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cambelt is back to 60k service interval now iirc

and service are usally set to varible, which can be up to 20k, it monitors the oil qulaity and tells you when it needs servicing
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Presume you MUST feed them on optimax aswell?
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quote:
Originally posted by deano87
I hear the latest S3 suffers from a screaming engine?


what do you mean
jr
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Originally posted by whitter45
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Originally posted by Rob H
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Originally posted by joe6886
Make sure the cambelt has been done and the waterpump done too, Haldex (quattro 4wd) oil and filter is meant to be done every 20k miles.


Any more info on service intervals?

20k seems a bit long so would probably do it more... I do my corsa about every 5k .

How often does the Haldex/cam belt need doing?


Cambelth now changed from 5 to 4 years as some failures have been experienced

20K is AVS so may be shorter. Mines fixed on 9200 mile services as Audi do not reset the service indicator my mate does


changed again i "think" whitter
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Originally posted by Cupra Steve
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Originally posted by whitter45
good but need to get used to how it drives $WD

Lift off in the corner and you go sideways had a scary experience racing my mates S3

About 5.5 if remapped but the killer is it will not do 60 in second unless you raise the rev limit but power tails off at 6.5k rpm

The cars are 2wd until the car detects loss of traction - thats how the haldex works as its a viscous coupling


my ibiza was gutless over 6k. which i thought was boring, but for my next car i'd like something more luxury probably!!! S3's will be affordable by then. So they are FWD but then the rears will be powered when the fronts lose traction???


So many companies claim different figures for remaps on 1.8t's!!! Stage 2 i thought you needed a FMIC too??


yes stage 2 can include this - normally advised but not required

All tuners quote different figures as they are all different

APR is similar to OEM map but REVO is much harsher
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Originally posted by deano87
I hear the latest S3 suffers from a screaming engine?


what do you mean

Of all the reviews I've read etc it says that the new S3 seems underpowered so to get it anywhere the engine needs revving and it isn't hugely refined.
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sounds great IMO ? 265bhp isnt underpowered
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I have drove the new golf GTI which uses the K03 turbo on the FSI engine running 197 bhp and there is no lag compared to mine but it uses the smaller turbo

The new S3 usues the K04 turbo thus may have more lag
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8th Jan 07 at 13:19   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

I'd love an S3
deano87
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Originally posted by jr
sounds great IMO ? 265bhp isnt underpowered

No no, I think it sounds fabulous too, I just meant what reviewers have said.

Andrew Finkel (not Jeremy Clarkson ) - The Sunday Times
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Problems start to mount when you look beneath this veneer of sophistication. When choosing which engine should power the S3

I just presumed they’d use the 3.2 litre V6 in the A3 as that already produced 250bhp before they started tinkering with it. Not so. In fact they plumped for a 2 litre four-cylinder motor that derives its 265bhp from being turbocharged to within an inch of its life.

What this means is that while the S3 goes like hell — 0-62mph in 5.7sec — the quality of that performance is nothing like as endearing. The car suffers from turbo lag, which often means there is a considerable pause between your right foot requesting a gob of power to squirt past a long lorry and it actually arriving. In that time a less powerful but normally aspirated car such as the A3 3.2 quattro would already be on its way.

And while the V6 A3 howls sweet six-cylinder music, the highly stressed four-cylinder motor in the S3 sounds anodyne at low revs and increasingly harsh as the needle sweeps around the dial. I wonder how many people will think it worth paying the extra £760 that the S3 costs over the A3 3.2 quattro when its less responsive and refined engine gives a mere 15bhp extra.

http://driving.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,12929-2338727,00.html



[Edited on 08-01-2007 by deano87]
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it doesnt feel that laggy, no worse than a megan 225, anything KO3 wise ive driven has no lag it seems
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it doesnt feel that laggy, no worse than a megan 225, anything KO3 wise ive driven has no lag it seems


very true

my TT was very laggy until I shimmed the DV and relocated it - still has lag though
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KO3 turbo's are tiny hence no lag but also can't hold boost like a ko4.
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i really like the 225 s3s and they seem to be a good all round. just got to watch the slight lag if your not used to it though when you try and dart out on roundabouts, junctions etc but i suppose thats to be expected with any smallish cc high powered turbo engine.

anyone know how a 225 s3 would compare to a bmw 330ci in a straight line?
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i really like the 225 s3s and they seem to be a good all round. just got to watch the slight lag if your not used to it though when you try and dart out on roundabouts, junctions etc but i suppose thats to be expected with any smallish cc high powered turbo engine.


New Corsa VXR is going to be a nightmare then?
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New Corsa VXR is going to be a nightmare then?


i would imagine it would be quite laggy yes, but anyone with half a brain would change down a gear if they were at low revs and needed the power there and then
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New Corsa VXR is going to be a nightmare then?


i would imagine it would be quite laggy yes, but anyone with half a brain would change down a gear if they were at low revs and needed the power there and then


hence your first comment is stupid!!!!
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i really like the 225 s3s and they seem to be a good all round. just got to watch the slight lag if your not used to it though when you try and dart out on roundabouts, junctions etc but i suppose thats to be expected with any smallish cc high powered turbo engine.

anyone know how a 225 s3 would compare to a bmw 330ci in a straight line?


I have experineced this from a rolling start when my car was standard and he could not gain on me but i could not pull away from him

For a 3.0 straight six with 231bhp I thought My standard TT did ok
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Well in my ibiza i was neck n neck with a 330 clubsport.
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hence your first comment is stupid!!!!


what mine?
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Well in my ibiza i was neck n neck with a 330 clubsport.


Whats it running
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nice, the 225 TT and s3 is slightly quicker than what i expected then the 330ci is quick and smooth throughout the rev range. i imagine these remapped s3s/TTs to be quite a weapon then
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yes they are a quick car

I raced my mate in his s3 both standard at the time (his was a 210) and from 30 mph to 120 i pulled about 4 car lengths on him

he got his remapped and we did it again - i couldn't catch him at all - he just left me
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Originally posted by Cupra Steve
Well in my ibiza i was neck n neck with a 330 clubsport.


Whats it running



it was just remapped, i have proof of this as i was racing my mate in his dc2 then i saw xenons up my arse, shat myself thinking it was old bill, then saw it come past me so i booted it and i got infront of him by a cars length. i pulled into the petrol station and he flew straight past.
also being neck and neck with an m5 off the lights, i thought it was a 528 but when i pulled over he pulled in with me to ask what the fuck i had and i was more shocked than him when he said it's a m5!!!

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