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broster

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16th Nov 06 at 12:18

quote:
Originally posted by AK
i think thats maybe reffering to folk saying ECU's can 'learn'... i.e unplugging the ECU, or disconecting the bat clears the ECU.

i think thats bull shit that you can gain 15bhp after a remap........

Dave A

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16th Nov 06 at 12:22

its all bulshit. I think he should be done for gaining monies by deception. how can a so called 'proffesional engine tuner' actually lie so much and sleep at night?

maybe he is starting to believe his own lies.

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16th Nov 06 at 12:31

quote:
Originally posted by broster

i think thats bull shit that you can gain 15bhp after a remap........

you think gaining 15bhp after a remap is bullshit?

OK!!!

I hope you have worded that wrong

bigrabbelfast

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16th Nov 06 at 12:34

maybe he ment on that car as 15bhp would be easy with a remap on say a skyline or most turbo dervs

[Edited on 16-11-2006 by bigrabbelfast]

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16th Nov 06 at 12:35

that car in question was a 1.8t VW!!!!

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16th Nov 06 at 12:36

but anyway... i think broster meant the 15bhp after the final figure after the remap.... which is .... i agree... bulshat!

The 215bhp from a remap isnt that far fetched though. A 1.8t running better fueling and a wedge more boost will make more power!

bigrabbelfast

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16th Nov 06 at 12:36

doh my bad i didnt read the start of the post

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16th Nov 06 at 12:39

Dave - just a little comment too. If you are going to be ruuning your own company. It doesnt look very professional if you are slating all these other companies.

Maybe state facts rather than calling him a liar etc.

Just an observation.

Dave A

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16th Nov 06 at 17:43

I know I should remain impartial with me having my own tuning/rolling road company but I hate it when these companies are clearly lying to gain money.

I have spent £50k to ensure that my RR setup is accurate (well as accurate as it can be) and spent thousands extra on a 'weather station' for the RR so that factors such as ambient air temp, intake air temp, charge temps, humidity and barometric pressure can be measured and included in the final calculations.

and I wouldnt slate any other company apart from this one, I have known about them for years and are regarded as a complete joke in the industry and the performance/modified car community.

lets be fair, theres companies out there like me that spend massive amount of money on being proffesional and then theres companies like this that make a joke of it all.

Dave A

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16th Nov 06 at 17:46

its always the case that some rolling roads will over-read. thats acceptable, some will under-read. no chassis dyno (exept an engine dyno) will ever be 100% accurate and that is not the companies / mappers fault.

but consistently making things up and setting the run up so that the car will produce higher figures than is possible is a totally different thing.

Robin

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16th Nov 06 at 17:52

quote:
Originally posted by AK

quote:
Originally posted by broster

i think thats bull shit that you can gain 15bhp after a remap........

you think gaining 15bhp after a remap is bullshit? OK!!!

I hope you have worded that wrong

Read what Mark said again Adam.

he said 'AFTER a remap'

meaning that the ECU will NOT 'learn' 15bhp from nowhere, especially after a remap.

YES, it can get 15bhp from a new map, easily, BUT it won't gain a random 15bhp AFTER being mapped for something extra.

Cupra Steve

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16th Nov 06 at 17:59

quote:
Originally posted by Dave A
this is my favourite comment:

What time of year did you get yours done? I would imagine the weather makes a difference as well, its been cold today so should be more bhp in the air

tbh if he is talking about a turbo'd car you will see more bhp in a colder enviroment than a hotter one, due to colder intake temps.

but still thats not wot he said lol.

Dave A

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16th Nov 06 at 18:30

but on aa decent RR the intake temps, ambient temps etc are all corrected so that it doesnt matter what temp it is, the same result would be had every run.

so even if the intake air temp was 2 degrees the computer would overcompensate for it so that it is corrected to be between 17 and 21 degrees.

broster

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16th Nov 06 at 19:17

quote:
Originally posted by AK

quote:
Originally posted by broster

i think thats bull shit that you can gain 15bhp after a remap........

you think gaining 15bhp after a remap is bullshit? OK!!!

I hope you have worded that wrong

i didnt word it wrong i meant after the remap is done and then drive it for a week and gain an extra 15bhp

Steve

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16th Nov 06 at 19:18

yes thats rubbish

Robin

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16th Nov 06 at 20:23

they still believe it

BabyBlade

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16th Nov 06 at 20:48

An interesting, if not v.comical read.

I suppose everyones got to start somewhere, and I only really know what I know from reading threads and getting help on here, not that I actually know that much about mapping.

That 1.2 corsas doing alright though

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17th Nov 06 at 00:27

quote:
Originally posted by broster

quote:
Originally posted by AK

quote:
Originally posted by broster

i think thats bull shit that you can gain 15bhp after a remap........

you think gaining 15bhp after a remap is bullshit? OK!!!

I hope you have worded that wrong

i didnt word it wrong i meant after the remap is done and then drive it for a week and gain an extra 15bhp

to me a re-map is having a car mapped.

AFTER a re-map, to me, means the after effects of a remap

anyway. I know what your saying

Paul_J

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17th Nov 06 at 09:43

I'd be worried about getting my car mapped by cowboys, if the fueling is wrong it could cause long term problems.

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