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GREG 1
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No I agree but we certainly lack pace!
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Also was it just me that noticed when ever we had the ball they came on us like flys closing us down yet when they had the ball we gave them space to play around.
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No I have no problem with him being a Chelsea player (I dont mind Terry, Cole or Cole bing in there) I just dont see how he can offer his best at this level when he is playing maybe 10-20mins a game on average.

I think he would be a regular by now if he was playing week in week out, but he isnt so not sure how he can start. Similar story for Walcott but no one would argue with me if I said he shouldnt start as only plays a small part each week.
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So shall we say the same for Crouch then as he doesn't play week in week out for Liverpool anymore?
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No way on earth would I ever play SWP ahead of Lennon! Lennon constantly scares the shit out of defences!!!
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Walcott I agree with but I think Wright Philips can offer the England team a lot. He just needs to play.

It's not his fault he can't get into the squad at Chelsea, the likes of Robben and others challenging him. He's only young ffs

Imo his career took a severe turn for the worse when he went to Chelsea. He seems to be bouncing back a little bit now though.
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Agreed Rob, I do prefer Lennon to SWP, only slightly though.

Like when he skinned 4 Macedonian players before teeing up Gerrard who hit the bar
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I think give it time and he will play alot more for Chelsea. I don't think Robben will play as much anymore, he may even move onwards but this season SWP has played a fair few games!
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Lennon Is awesome when running at players, he can beat players with his pace like Ronaldo does at utd. I just think his all round play isn't upto it "yet"
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Look it makes no difference what formation or what players are in the team they are a bunch of lazy twats who are over paid and underworked, non of them WANT to play for England they have no pride or passion something that this country is loosing very quickly.

I blame America.
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I agree Oliver. The likes of Ashley Cole and Lampard and too worried about what they look like on the pitch rather than how they play

I don't think half of them are worth what they earn.
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The fact is Englland should eb playing with width.

Mclaren should stick to a formation.

DROP LAMPARD. Play gerrard in the middle and have eithewr cole/ downing on the left and SWP/lennon on the right. Park/hargreaves with gerrard.

Robinson, neville, W Bridge, Terry, Ferdinand, SWP/Lennon, parker, gerrard, downing/J Cole, Crouch Rooney.

Strikers are debateable as Rooney is clearly out of form!


EDIT to say I actually don't want A Cole in the team bring back wayne bridge.



[Edited on 12-10-2006 by Jamescorsa97]
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forgot about Bridge I would prefer to see him there as well instead of Cole.

That's not because I'm a bitter Arsenal fan
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If Id of said that there would be 3 or 4 of you saying its because I hate Chelsea now

I agree though!
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quote:
Originally posted by GREG 1
So shall we say the same for Crouch then as he doesn't play week in week out for Liverpool anymore?


I'd agree with that too yeah, and think Crouch would still be better coming off the bench. But Crouch is playing more than SWP does in the Prem and is scoring goals when he does play so is making himself hard to drop.
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Bridge will overcome Cole soon enough
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quote:
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Walcott I agree with but I think Wright Philips can offer the England team a lot. He just needs to play.

It's not his fault he can't get into the squad at Chelsea, the likes of Robben and others challenging him. He's only young ffs

Imo his career took a severe turn for the worse when he went to Chelsea. He seems to be bouncing back a little bit now though.


Agreed, but he knew what it would be like going to Chelsea with all the players they had. I saw that and Im sure others did. He had his chance to go to Arsenal or Liverpool where he would play most games.

I just dont think he deserves to start when he wont be match fit (90mins anyway) or as sharp as he should be.
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quote:
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Bridge will overcome Cole soon enough


I agree, Bridge is a better defender IMO TBH GTF EMA
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Bridge is a better player IMO
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I still dont understand why were not playing beckam.
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quote:
Originally posted by Jamescorsa97


DROP LAMPARD


[Edited on 12-10-2006 by Jamescorsa97]


Jesus I have been waiting for someone to come up with this!! Fat Frank has been consistantly shite for about 10 games now...he is awful...Stephen Gerrard is 4 times the player fat frank is yet because Gerrard can play anywhere due to his talent and fat frank cant SG gets moved around the midfield...

We want to get rid of him and play Gerrard CM with Hargreaves....Lennon on the right and J.Cole/Downing on the left...

I hate the way people are not getting on his back as much as other players...its simple...LAMPARD HAS NEVER DONE IT FOR ENGLAND!

[Edited on 12-10-2006 by MarkM]
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Frank Lampard isnt fat FFS

Problem with quality players like Frank is that you cant risk leaving him out because all of a sudden he could hit some form and change a game for you. He is just going through a patch of bad form. He is still playing well just not scoring goals, although he has scoed a few for Chelsea this year.

Rooney hasnt been playing at his best, should he be dropped too?

[Edited on 12-10-2006 by Jamie Walby]
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quote:
Originally posted by Jamie Walby
Frank Lampard isnt fat FFS

Problem with quality players like Frank is that you cant risk leaving him out because all of a sudden he could hit some form and change a game for you. He is just going through a patch of bad form. He is still playing well just not scoring goals, although he has scoed a few for Chelsea this year.

Rooney hasnt been playing at his best, should he be dropped too?

[Edited on 12-10-2006 by Jamie Walby]


yes
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Well said Jamie
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Nish, Lampard needs dropping... he may as well change his name to John Barnes II

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