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PK1
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22nd Jan 06 at 02:55   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

So annoyed!

Was a passenger in my mates car when a copper pulled us up, and said I was getting a fixed for not wearing a seatbelt.

After an initial friendly discussion, he wasnt giving in, so I have him an immense amount of arguent about legal definitions etc.

What I want to know is do they have to show you the evidence (ie the video which proves it?)

He wouldnt show me it and said he would in court, but other than that refused to show me it

I dont think they can do this, anyone else had this?

Cheers
Danny P
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If you contest it and go to court then thats when they are obliged to show the evidence, and if found guilty you be made to pay court costs of at least 40 plus any fine they wish to give you (usually 60 when it comes to court) best thing is to pay it and forget about it
PK1
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yeah I completely see what you mean, just thought I could get out of it on

a) a technicality (for not showing evidence)

b) the fact there is no evidence

Looking at the situation in which the incident occured, theres no way he could have recorded it on video,which is why he's reluctant to show it?

Who's been caught on here and been / hasn't been shown the evidence?
Sam
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FFS just pay the bloody find and don't be an idiot!

He didn't give you a fine for the hell of it, do you not see those adverts on TV about people that don't wear seatbelts?
mav
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22nd Jan 06 at 03:15   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

if there is 2 coppers in the car thats all the evidence they need..

AND wear your seatbelt, i learned the hard way of not wearing my seatbelt all the time in the back..
Paul
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My thoughts exactly sam with these adverts on the TV i can't believe fools are still not wearing there seat belts. On the flip side you could have proberbly come abck with the freedom of information act.
Andrew
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22nd Jan 06 at 03:26   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

You did the crime now pay the fine
John
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You're a 'locally respected young defence lawyer' PK1 are you not?
You can get people off of drink driving and 10k for whiplash yet your asking on here about not wearing a seatbelt
Ian
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Pay the fine and be thankful you didn't crash.
PK1
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Suppose so, Ian.

I'm very tempted to take it to court, however this could potentially result in a larger fine consequently I think i'll just pay the fine!

Suppose its not half as bad as the new parking fines! 70
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Written statement would be enough as evidence, they don't need anything more. And you get costs for going.
PK1
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yes, its 55 costs + the 30 fine

in all fairness though, its a seatbelt offence! These things don't get taken with much, if any, seriousness in the great scheme of things
Andrew
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As a driver is it just a fine still or points too?
Ian
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I would say leaving the car via the front window or crushing the person in front of you is fairly serious.
ed
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Why don't you write them a letter pretending to be a solicitor then... I mean again. That last letter was really convincing.

Have you ever flew through a car window head first at 50mph before?
Karen
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quote:
Originally posted by Andrew
As a driver is it just a fine still or points too?


Just a fine
My pal got stopped the other day just got a 30 fine
p4uls corsa
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i had one a while back and took it to court there said they where doing me for not wearing a seatbelt but was going to drop the fine so i didnt have to pay anything .but i still got done for no seatbelt just didnt get any punishment as they keep it on record if u get done again or something

should add i only took it off at the trafic lights due to kids argueing pulled off at the lights and was pulled almost straight away

[Edited on 22-01-2006 by p4uls corsa]
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tut tut u shud wer ur seatbelt
Ry_B
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Pay the fine, you're lucky you didn't crash and kill yourself for not wearing your belt. Takes 2 seconds to put on and comes naturual, feels weird when you don't wear it and the car is off lol!
linz
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quote:
Originally posted by Sam
FFS just pay the bloody find and don't be an idiot!

He didn't give you a fine for the hell of it, do you not see those adverts on TV about people that don't wear seatbelts?



Pay it for gods sake
stevegreetham
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pay it and next time have it on. On Friday night one of my close friends crashed, he and his passenger did not have seatbelts on.....he got out with minor cuts and a buggered up arm, she hit her face on the windscreen and is in a bit of a state.
Cole
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i have to be honest it has taken me 4yrs to start wearing a seatbelt in the car after i had my crash it saved my life not having one on kinda scared me to wear one if you know what i mean but in all honesty the chances of it hapenning again are very slim i was lucky once plz wear ya seatbelt its not worth not wearing one in the long run
Jules
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22nd Jan 06 at 13:46   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Is this thread a wind up?
John
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PK1 is a wind up.
drax
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You want to take someone to court for potentially saving your life, and giving you a fine in order to remind you not to forget again..

Are you a fecking bellend or what?

[Edited on 22-01-2006 by drax]

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