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Poll: Which engine route??
  X16XE on TB's
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  C20XE
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Butler
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For use in a track day car, which engine and for what reasons?
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Thought you didn't want an XE


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i voted X16

you know why
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xev m8
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Now that voting's a bit more interesting!



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quote:
Originally posted by robmarriott
i voted X16

you know why


Can you tell me the differences standard wise between the x16 and c16 and whats better for tunability, the 1.6 sports come with c16 right?
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x16xe on tb,s

better handling compard to XE (IMO) would be better on track (IMO)

x16 instead of c16 as the engines newer
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Theres people who say the c20xe is way too heavy compared, then others who say they cant notice the difference
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1.6 sport came with x16xe gsi came with c16 n l8 gsi with x16xe,tell the diff straight away,c16xe got plastic inlet x16xe got metal inlet
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thats why i stated IMO so it doesnt start a big debate
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quote:
Originally posted by corsacalvin
1.6 sport came with x16xe gsi came with c16 n l8 gsi with x16xe,tell the diff straight away,c16xe got plastic inlet x16xe got metal inlet

Ok cool, im easily get them mixed
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hahaha Mines got about 10k on my c16xe!

ner ner!

James, sport dont come with c16xe's only the earlier Corsas do.

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yeah not hard to get them mixed up
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what does the c and x stand for tho? i know the the c means its got a cat, but what about the x is it a higher emissions band?

also the c16 pushes more powerout standard? and this is due to the inlet is it not?

so if you put TB's on a C16 and an X16 there would then be no difference in the two? or is it in the head or block they are different?
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still waiting on offical difference in weight between x16xe and c20xe
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the differnce between a c16xe and a x16xe is the head. the c16xe head had larger ports as it doesnt have the egr system, the ports are also a different shape and give better airflow, although a x16xe with headwork will give very similar results.

i would get a late spec low milage x16xe and get the head done rather that buy a c16xe which will probably have high miles.

by the time you fit tb's there is hardly any difference.
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rob_lee went back to a 1.6 after he had a c20xe and is so convinced that it is better overall, would be nice to hear someone back this up
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I cant begin to say how much i prefer the 16xe over the 20xe.

Around the track i found it quite easy to out class c20xe nova's and corsa's.

I admit my c16xe nova isnt as fast as my old one (2.0 16v nova) but its so so so much quicker!

[Edited on 13-12-2005 by Rob_Lee]
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ive got a x16xe on tb's.

my mate has a 2 litre corsa, it seems to be broken all the time tho, doesnt handle as well as mine and mine is quicker.

i wouldnt swop mine for any 2 litre corsa.

and yes, you can feel the extra weight in the corners.
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x16xe, or c16xe, both will be at similar power level when tuned and given so proper head work. i went for an x16xe because it was cheaper when i was looking originally, think id still go for the x16xe what ever tho.

id pick it over a c20xe because i believe on a track it will henadle a hell of a lot better and i picked it over the c20let because in my eyes the let has too much power and torque for a track car, i think 180bhp from the 1.6 is a nice mix, always said that as have many other people on here. but im waiting people to tell me that im wrong.
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i have gone for 20xe for the simple reason it has more power and torque as std, and to get it to 180-200 bhp you done have to have loads of cash

plus even if it is understeery which i doubt very much as ive driven one so im now talking from personel experience, even if it did, i like understeer as i can control it,
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plus, if the 2ltr was so bad, they wouldnt use it in rally cross where handling is very very mixed due to different surfaces on track
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quote:
Originally posted by Adam-D
i have gone for 20xe for the simple reason it has more power and torque as std, and to get it to 180-200 bhp you done have to have loads of cash

plus even if it is understeery which i doubt very much as ive driven one so im now talking from personel experience, even if it did, i like understeer as i can control it,


awaits post:

"understeer killed me" as you go into a ditch....
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quote:
Originally posted by Adam-D
plus, if the 2ltr was so bad, they wouldnt use it in rally cross where handling is very very mixed due to different surfaces on track



seen the suspension they have tho, a little better than you average track day car! i actually know people who have rally cross cars and the money they spend on the cars is one hell of a lot more than i thought! even the engines they go for the ally block pinto engine alot and why.... BECAUSE ITS LIGHTER! lol

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