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Bart

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23rd Nov 05 at 12:52

Ive just downloaded a trial of InDesign CS2 as a package to play about with.
Looks slightly similar to photoshop, but its aimed more towards publishing then imagery.

Anyone here use it?

Icy

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23rd Nov 05 at 12:54

yeh at college but am not familiar with it either.
we use it to do mag covers etc

ps for the imaging
indesign for layout
illustrator for text

dave17

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23rd Nov 05 at 12:56

Its quite good, but dont use it.

Normally use quark for publishing really.

The best thing about InDesign is that you can directly edit your .jpgs / .eps / .ai's in the application. Saves having to open illustrator, save, and then update the image (like you would in quark)

The only problem is not many people use it in the industry, so is useless if you want to send something to print.

Ojc

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23rd Nov 05 at 13:05

Joff does.

Icy

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23rd Nov 05 at 13:06

adobe cs 2 pacakge for £350 with a wacom tablet

tempted! should i?

Bart

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23rd Nov 05 at 13:44

quote:
Originally posted by Icy
yeh at college but am not familiar with it either.
we use it to do mag covers etc

ps for the imaging
indesign for layout
illustrator for text

Icy why illustrator for text? why not in InDesign?

liamC

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23rd Nov 05 at 13:55

quote:
Originally posted by dave17
Its quite good, but dont use it.

Normally use quark for publishing really.

The best thing about InDesign is that you can directly edit your .jpgs / .eps / .ai's in the application. Saves having to open illustrator, save, and then update the image (like you would in quark)

The only problem is not many people use it in the industry, so is useless if you want to send something to print.

I got quark but couldnt even work out how to import a picture!

How do you edit jpegs in InDesign? Im using it to create a calendar at the minute

Bart

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23rd Nov 05 at 14:04

aparently Quark is poop, so ive kept away from it.

dave17

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23rd Nov 05 at 14:34

Quark is the industry standard. I dont know anywhere that doesnt use it.

I use it all day everyday, great program.

To import a picture you draw a box, and press Apple T (if on mac, dont know about pc)

We have the entire CS2 package here at work, only use photoshop and illustrator most of the time tho

What are you looking to produce Bart?

dave17

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23rd Nov 05 at 14:36

quote:
Originally posted by Bart

quote:
Originally posted by Icy
yeh at college but am not familiar with it either.
we use it to do mag covers etc

ps for the imaging
indesign for layout
illustrator for text

Icy why illustrator for text? why not in InDesign?

Thats what i was thinking. Illustrator is not a production program, its design. Saying that ive made a few jobs in illustrator where i wanted to use effects etc. But 90% of the time i use quark

liamC

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23rd Nov 05 at 14:46

quote:
Originally posted by dave17
Quark is the industry standard. I dont know anywhere that doesnt use it.

I use it all day everyday, great program.

To import a picture you draw a box, and press Apple T (if on mac, dont know about pc)

We have the entire CS2 package here at work, only use photoshop and illustrator most of the time tho

What are you looking to produce Bart?

So Quark to produce the, for example, front cover of a magazine?

So basically you do your graphics in photoshop and then make your layout in Quark?

What programs would you use for a portfolio/brochure type thing? Im thinking about making one

Bart

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23rd Nov 05 at 14:50

quote:
Originally posted by dave17
Quark is the industry standard. I dont know anywhere that doesnt use it.

I use it all day everyday, great program.

To import a picture you draw a box, and press Apple T (if on mac, dont know about pc)

We have the entire CS2 package here at work, only use photoshop and illustrator most of the time tho

What are you looking to produce Bart?

adverts for a company to be printed in the local paper.

dave17

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23rd Nov 05 at 15:00

liam - yes i would make any illustrations, images etc in photoshop/illustrator, save them as .eps / tiffs / jpgs and then import into quark to sort layound and type and text i would need.

Never use photoshop for text as it is pixel based, quark is linear based, so large documents (ie billboards) the text will still be crisp.

I would use quark for brochures, i have done many times.

Bart - would defo do what you are doing in Quark.

liamC

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23rd Nov 05 at 15:08

quote:
Originally posted by dave17
liam - yes i would make any illustrations, images etc in photoshop/illustrator, save them as .eps / tiffs / jpgs and then import into quark to sort layound and type and text i would need.

Never use photoshop for text as it is pixel based, quark is linear based, so large documents (ie billboards) the text will still be crisp.

I would use quark for brochures, i have done many times.

Bart - would defo do what you are doing in Quark.

Thanks mate. I have used quark a few times for files, and for some reason find it an absolute impossibility to export a PDF as I get a postscript printer error every single time. I follow the help section every single time as well and it just tells me to fuck off every time!

dave17

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23rd Nov 05 at 15:11

Exporting a Quark file to PDF?

Look for a website called Pass 4 Press.

Industry standard in creating PDF's.

liamC

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23rd Nov 05 at 15:14

cheers, If I create a brochure in quark do I leave it in a quark format when going to the printers or do I use PDF?

dave17

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23rd Nov 05 at 15:16

Depends on the printers. You can use the option 'Collect for output' under File. This will save the quark document, and images/fonts/swatches used. Then just supply them with that folder.

Or yes you can create a PDF, its upto you/the printers.

Also think how you want it printed, 4 colour/2 colour. Digital or litho. If printing 4 colour, make sure all images/graphics are changed to CMYK.

Bart

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23rd Nov 05 at 15:20

LiamC - would it be ok for text if i was to do as ICY said, use photoshop for imags/ backgrounds etc, then Indesign for layout and Illustrator for Text? or is Illustrator's text pixel based?

i have a copy of Quark, but never used it. currently downloading InDesign and illustrator cs2 at the moment.

[Edited on 23-11-2005 by Bart]

liamC

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23rd Nov 05 at 15:37

Indesign is fine for text mate as far as I can see. You can tell because if you export it as a PDF the text doesnt pixelate when you zoom further and further in.

Or thats what Ive been told anwyay!

dave17

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23rd Nov 05 at 15:42

Yes indesign is fine for text.

Bart

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23rd Nov 05 at 15:58

brill.

so that would explain why im getting shadows/blur around text when i do this in photoshop and the paper prints it....
http://www.corsasport.co.uk/board/viewthread.php?tid=244549

dave17

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23rd Nov 05 at 16:10

quote:
Originally posted by Bart
brill.

so that would explain why im getting shadows/blur around text when i do this in photoshop and the paper prints it....
http://www.corsasport.co.uk/board/viewthread.php?tid=244549

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Bart

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23rd Nov 05 at 16:53

just had a look at InDesign.. gonna have to find some tutorials i think.
i opened a blank canvas and i couldnt even manage to insert an image